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With ADUC and Exchange 2003 it was possible to manage all attributes of the user and user mailbox from within ADUC. Is there any way of achieving this with ADUC or a similar tool when running Exchange 2007?
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All mailbox attributes are now controlled through the Exchange Management Console or Powershell, not ADUC.

Simon.

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Thanks Simon.

I realize that Microsoft does not provide the functionality out-of-the box. EMC is nice but incomplete. PowerShell is nice if you have lots of users. But ADUC with the Exchange 2003 extensions was perfect for administrating medium sized environments. One of killer features of Exchange 2000 was centralized management of AD and Exchange. Exchange 2007 is a step backwards for most customers, even if the Fortune 500 are happy as Larry about separating Exchange recipient management from AD user management.

Are there any 3rd party solutions that extend ADUC to manage Exchange 2007 recipients or replace ADUC with a tool with similar functionality that can manage AD objects including Exchange 2007 recipient attributes?
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Get used to the way it works now as it isn't going to change. There are no third party tools that I am aware of that replace the functionality. Everyone is concentrating on PowerShell based tools, to do everything. I fully expect ADUC to go completely at some point. There may come a time when something is brought out that uses Powershell to provide a single interface. Quest would be the most likely source of that, but they would need to revise their prices for it to appeal to the small businesses.

The Exchange community is as polarised as you have pointed out.
The large sites think the change is wonderful. They can separate out the roles, everything is script-able and their control is much higher and things can be setup to work in a uniform way.

The small businesses are not so happy about the changes and think it is a backwards step.

I would have to disagree about the integrated management being a "killer feature". It was nice to have everything in one place, but it certainly wasn't a major thing. It was really the only way they could go at the time once Exchange was integrated in to AD rather than maintaining its own directory.

Don't forget that there is a significant number of people in the industry who think that anyone with less than 100 mailboxes should be using hosted services, not their own...

Simon.

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great answer, thanks!

Our customers are mainly 100 - 5000 mailboxes, mainly e2k7 "standard" and "large" organizations, but I suspect many of them will be sad about the loss of ADUC integration in e2k7. Many admins, like most humans, are conservative creatures! Maybe I'm just speaking for myself ... I'll try to broaden my mind and help our consultants and customers make friends with PowerShell.

PowerGUI looks interesting, have you heard anything positive or negative about it and/or the corresponding e2k7 PowerPack? (http://dmitrysotnikov.wordpress.com/2007/07/11/something-missing-in-exchange-2007-console-powergui-has-that/)
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I have PowerGui on a couple of servers and it seems to help with a lot of things. It isn't complete by any means, still a work in progress. I have said from the beginning that I suspect someone will release something that does everything in one GUI because so many people in the IT industry have got used to GUI and will not like Command Line, and despite its power, many think it is a backwards step.

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