Microsoft Data Protection Manager 2007 vs. Symantec Backup Exec 10d/11d

Posted on 2007-10-09
Last Modified: 2013-12-01
I hate Backup Exec&

Im seriously thinking of downloading Microsofts Data Protection Manager 2007 and giving it a whirl, they now offer Exchange, SQL and Sharepoint Agents all for under $1000! What are your thoughts?


We are currently in the process of moving away from tape in our backup scheme, Ive looked into the 7 Bay Rackmount, eSATA High-Rely Disk to Disk backup solution which Ive been quoted at $6191 for the Rackmount and 10-1TB HDs and media trays. My idea is to have multiple backups on each hard drive. Drive 1-5 (1-Mon, 2-Tues, etc) would have Mon-Fri and should hold about 3-4 backups totaling about 4 weeks of full (not byte level) backups. And the 6th and 7th drives would be used for one time, quarterly backups, and offsite backups. The advantage to this is that there will be full backups on HDs& not differential, incremental, and or bit/byte level backups (ala VSS) that require the first snapshot that may get corrupted.

This is what Ive come up with instead of something like the SonicWall CDP or the Axcient Uptiva which are single/mirror drives that backup using VSS.  My thinking is that if the SonicWall/Uptiva goes defective on us or the HDs fail, there go all of our backups. Where as with the High-Rely well have multiple HDs plus offsite HDs as backup.

What are your thoughts?

Thank you
Question by:mortega1
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    Well to be honest I do not think that Microsoft Data Protection Manager is any better than Backup Exec. If you are seriously thinking to buy something try with Netbackup. :)
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    As an update... we upgraded our backup solution from a tape based system to a hard drive based system and it is working better than I ever thought! I'm using a High-Rely 8-bay Sata-II rackmount unit backing up to 1TB HD's. I'm able to backup two days worth on one disk! I have one for each day of the week and two for Friday 1 and Friday 2. We're backing up 3 servers and before it would take 18 hours for just 2 servers with no verify. Now we're backing up 3 servers over a gigabit switch to the Sata-II High-Rely... Exchange/SQL/Data/3 servers/ 350GB with verify in about 8-9 hours!!!! Hope this helps someone.

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    What software did you end up using? We are also debating on either to go with Backup Exec or give Data Protection Manager 2007 a try. Also what type of storage did you use and where did you get it. I currently have a Dell server with 8 drives. the 1st 2 drives are running raid one and have only the OS and applications. The last 6 are configured as Raid 0 but I would like to also have a external disk array that would hold my end of month full backups and have only the daily and weekly on that raid.

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    Sorry for the late response... I was doing a search for the MS product and came across my own question! hahahaha... we ended up staying with Backup Exec 11d... but my backups are starting to slow down... 480GB w/ verify are taking 16-18 hours!!! I'm now looking at MS's product because it looks very promising! I really wanted to use ShadowProtect but the cost to backup 6 servers was over $3500 with the competitive upgrade pricing! It is clearing head and shoulders above the competition but I can't justify the cost. There is also, Ahsay backup that total cost would be $2200... but then I read about MS's backup solution and that it does bit level, VM, SQL, Exchange... etc... if it works as advertised... it might be a home run! We'll see.
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    DPM 2007 sucks big time, there's no way to control which tape or slot to use for a particular backup. It uses any tape found in the tape library. You won't know how much time it takes for a particular backup, restoring of Exchange 2007 is a nightmare using DPM 2007. Exchange 2007 is yet another stupid software, i will still prefer Exchange 2003 over 2007, at least in terms of managing Exchange 2003, everything is quite straight forward but with Exchange 2007, it's like learning the software all over again. I hate it.

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