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embedding fonts in html w/ mac -- alternative to weft
I've used weft for forever, because I didn't need something new, it work fine, and all the articles I read about embedding seemed to focus on new and ever more complicated ways to embed fonts that were dependent on newer and newer technology....which seemed self-defeating. Embedding fonts is used to make fonts more accessible so using technologies that not everyone has/has enabled just seems silly.
Anyway, I'm now doing most of my work on a mac and it's a real pain to have to switch over just to embed fonts. But weft is by microsoft, not mac compliant and is completely ancient. Is there some free and simple alternative?
Anyway, I'm now doing most of my work on a mac and it's a real pain to have to switch over just to embed fonts. But weft is by microsoft, not mac compliant and is completely ancient. Is there some free and simple alternative?
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1: huh? that's not what I was using to test....
2: yes, of course, but in my case, it's not an issue. it's very few letters per page and I try to make sure that loading times are reasonable for all the individual elements and the page as a whole (i.e. great for cable/dsl/whatever, good for 56k, reasonable for 28k) in terms of where the kbs and mbs come in, the fonts are way down on the list of things I need to worry about
3: yeah, but there's SO much out there that isn't copyright restricted but that people just don't have. the mac font manager is great--I can keep separate collections for fonts that have no copyright restrictions, that have no embedding restrictions, that have only x embedding restrictions. so maybe the font I want to use has copyright restrictions and I can't-I find an alternate. that's WAY better then a choice between serif and sans-serif
1 sounds problematic--I may have to ive up and find something more complicated and less available, but two and three aren't problems at all
2: yes, of course, but in my case, it's not an issue. it's very few letters per page and I try to make sure that loading times are reasonable for all the individual elements and the page as a whole (i.e. great for cable/dsl/whatever, good for 56k, reasonable for 28k) in terms of where the kbs and mbs come in, the fonts are way down on the list of things I need to worry about
3: yeah, but there's SO much out there that isn't copyright restricted but that people just don't have. the mac font manager is great--I can keep separate collections for fonts that have no copyright restrictions, that have no embedding restrictions, that have only x embedding restrictions. so maybe the font I want to use has copyright restrictions and I can't-I find an alternate. that's WAY better then a choice between serif and sans-serif
1 sounds problematic--I may have to ive up and find something more complicated and less available, but two and three aren't problems at all
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yeah, i'm hovering at around 60 percent--unfortunately most won't update to 7.0
i'm still confused though--you said no support for non MSIE browsers, but when I was doing this I tested on IE and Firefox (the main two browsers) on a computer that I made sure did NOT have the fonts I was testing...and the page displayed the same way (properly) in both
does no support mean that it doesn't work at all (i.e. I must have messed up and the fonts were on the machine) or irregular, undependable...
i'm still confused though--you said no support for non MSIE browsers, but when I was doing this I tested on IE and Firefox (the main two browsers) on a computer that I made sure did NOT have the fonts I was testing...and the page displayed the same way (properly) in both
does no support mean that it doesn't work at all (i.e. I must have messed up and the fonts were on the machine) or irregular, undependable...
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Thanks...that's great reading and also links to some articles i hadn't read before.
And, while I('m pretty sure that I) checked that the specific font files weren't on the computer I was using as a test, I was using family codes....so I could have just gotten close enough.
Fracks! If only I could stop everyone from using IE and have firefox support embedding!
That's what I'm wishing on next star....or you know, something more important....
Thanks again...
And, while I('m pretty sure that I) checked that the specific font files weren't on the computer I was using as a test, I was using family codes....so I could have just gotten close enough.
Fracks! If only I could stop everyone from using IE and have firefox support embedding!
That's what I'm wishing on next star....or you know, something more important....
Thanks again...
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Very complete, took the time to come back and clear up confusion on my part more than once. I'm accepting all the answers because they were all helpful and people should read all of them.
Totally irrelevant q, especially as I don't even know who gets to see these comments (which might be put on this form), what happened to the button where you got to choose which one was the accepted and the rest were assisted?
Totally irrelevant q, especially as I don't even know who gets to see these comments (which might be put on this form), what happened to the button where you got to choose which one was the accepted and the rest were assisted?
You and me both... :)
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sorry it's taken me so long to get back--I wasn't receiving ee email for a bit....
that's what I was afraid of...
I'm more curious about the first half of what you said---what makes WEFT unreliable? I was fairly nervous about using it and always set up a seriously long family running--the first few of which I'd need to embed, the next most everyone should have and the last (generally serif and sans-serif) things that would at least get the generally idea across. and then I'd go test the live page on computers that I knew didn't have a particular font installed and never seemed to have problems
it's a little difficult--I'm trying to avoid newer technologies and even sometimes simple things like images just because there's so little cross browser compatibility and I want the pages I program to be available to everyone---the more things involved in displaying text the more often the text doesn't display.
in this case it's not an issue for the majority of the pages, just headings and a few links
is there any reason I can't just use weft until the end of time/something new and better