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Time for a NEW Server...?

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We are constantly running into Disk Space issues on our current server. To be honest I don't work in that specific department, but I'm the one that deals with the headache when my system crashes and I lose data and my SQL Server data needs to be restored.

Anyway,....we are a small business. What kind of price range can we expect to pay in order to get a good quality server...that has massive disk space. Also, I'm thinking DELL would be more our speed...but what are your recommendations for small businesses in regard to SERVERS...?

Thanks
MikeV
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
I'm sorry, but you haven't provided nearly enough detail for what you need.

For example, what do you have NOW?  How much space do you have now?  How many users?  What OS is the server running now?  Have you considered Direct Attach Storage to expand the storage?  

I'll try to give you something in a minute... but it's little more than a guestimate without more information.
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
Ok, base dual core (not Xeon and non-Quad Core) Dell system with 1 GB RAM (WAY too little for a SQL Server or SBS server) with 1.2TB of storage in a RAID 5, hot-pluggable, no OS (which you'll probably need), you're looking at over $4400.  Figure with OS and 4 GB of RAM, that price jumps to $5500 to $6300... then if you add a quad core processor, that's another $500-600... you could be looking at $7000 or so.  

But then again, if your current server is only using 4x36 GB drives, then the amount of storage I configured is WAAAAAY too much... (I configured 4x400 GB drives).  You can knock off $2000 or more depending on what you REALLY need in terms of space.
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DBrookfieldCommented:
Not sure if you are English or US BAsed but I was looking at exactly the same thing last week. Now I'm happy with Dell, but you pay thorugh the nose for any changes over and above what tehy give you by default. I'm quite a fan of SuperMicro servers, their support is great, I've rung them at 10 pm British time, I was just taken to through to the US support instead.
The Thing I looked at is a Super Micro SuperServer 6035B It will take 2 x Intel Quad and has 16 Drive slots and comes in a 3 U rack, it's awesome value. Think the price in the states is aroun $1500 You'll need to add teh price of a Good Raid card and your drives but if you need more space than this can provide I'd eat my hat. Be careful about what drives you get. By this I mean plan ahead don't go for 8 x 36 drives because they are chepaer than 4 x 76 if you see what I mean?
I specc'd this thing as two x Quad and 16Gb of mem but if you are using SQL server and so on Windows then not much point having more than 4gb.
Also remember if you need disk redundancy as well as Performance then your better running RAID 10 (1 + 0) and not 5 or 0  + 1 is the way to go. As this is a DB I'm assuming it's writing to the log all the time. I've included the supermicro link here just google the module number and you'll find lots of people selling it.
http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/3U/6035/SYS-6035B-8R+V.cfm
Then spec it up yourself that will save you some money and it's not hard.

Hope this helps :-)





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DBrookfieldCommented:
Oh yes if you re wondering about how relaible SuperMicro's are I use them with several clients and haven't had any real issues, but ask another question here and you'll get a load of responses I'm sure that will help you make your choice.
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DBrookfieldCommented:
Ok had some time on my hand so costed up this machine
$1500 for the machine
$350-$400 for 4gb Ram
$300-$400 for a AOC-LPZCR2 which is the 256 Mb Zero raid controller they do the AOC-LPZCR1 is cheaper but only has 64Mb onit. It connects to the Host bus, you can of course get a diffeent RAID Card check with SuperMicro which Chipset youneed for the RAID Controller, of course using a NON Zero Channel would be better but the Sky is the limit for RAID.
$170-$220 for Fujitsu MAS 73GB 15K U320 80pin SCA-2 10 K drives will be cheaper $120 for Seagate Cheetah 10K.6 73GB 10K U320 80pin
As to the CPU's from $200 to a $1000 depending on which one you want, this machine will take the dual core as well as the quad cores, it has two CPU slots so could be an 8 way if you wanted, but Reckon 1 Dual core would do. Your going to be limited by disk access/speed more than CPU load. Unless you have some very complicated DB, but on the basis you have disk space issues and not CPU problems then that's not likley to be the case :-)



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MIKESoftware Solutions ConsultantAuthor Commented:
Awesome info guys....it helps out alot...keep it coming if you think of anything else...

MikeV
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
If you order one from Dell, order it NOW.  And DO NOT order off the web site (config on the web site if you like, but CALL them and get a small Business account rep - 9 times out of 10, it can save you money andthey can discount things below the web site, especially on upgrades and in quantity.  Further, since October ends a fiscal quarter, if you call NOW you can get a better deal (they like to pad the revenues, so if they can sell some last minute systems, they look better and the discounts tend to be greater.  If you don't get it now and can wait until mid january, you could get even better deals as that's the fiscal end of year for them.
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MIKESoftware Solutions ConsultantAuthor Commented:
Nice...nice...thanks
MikeV
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