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I have an HP CP1700 A3 colour ink jet printer. I rarely use it, and so am reluctant to keep pouring money into it in the form of replacement ink cartridges. Presently it is saying that the yellow colour cartridge has (time) expired. I don't want to print in colour (1 colour, say blue, would be handy, but black alone is sufficient for me). Now it won't print at all. Can I get round this some way and make it ignore the yellow cartridge?
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I believe that all cartidges have to be filled oin order for it to print at all. After you replace the cartidge you can specify in the properties for the printer to only print in black. Sorry about that.
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StuartOrd,

Do you ever print color?  If not switch to a black laser printer.  The prices have become very comparable to the inkjet style printers but the cost of use is much less.  Toner will last longer than the ink.  Even if you use the color it can be more economical.

To directly answer your question thenone is correct.  Those that get around this often refill the cartridges themselves and/or rotate cartridges (i.e. 3 different sets of them) so the printer "thinks" a new one is entered.  This depends on the model of printer though.  I can look into this more for your model if you want.  My recommendation is a printer that works for your needs though. :)

Let me know if you have any questions or need more information.

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Thanks for your replies. The important feature of the cp1700 is that it is A3; I only use it for printing A3 technical documents, but too few to justify a new A3 printer. The ink reservoirs and the print heads can't be swapped round - they have indexing differences. it really annoys me that the manufacturers prevent you using the product they way you want to. I'll probably end up trashing the printer and doing without. I've sent HP a question but don't really expect a useful answer...
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Let us know what you find out from HP.  They are actually pretty helpful but with this issue will probably not be able to help.  What you want to do is not recommended use.  Those that do it on certain printers/models usually need to do some tricks that void warranties and include "hacking."

I do want to clarify something.  When I mentioned rotating the cartridges that was a general idea but not talking about from black to color or vice a versa.  Nothing like that at all.  I think that is what you understood because of your response about indexing.  What I meant was different sets of ink cartridges but still color for color or black for black (I haven't looked up the exact set up of your cartridges to see if they are 1 unit, separate, etc).  That part of the comment probably wasn't needed and just caused confusion.  It would apply more if you were trying to manually refill.

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding.  Let us know what you find out or if you have a question.

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Yes, that's fine, thanks. This printer has 8 replaceable items - print heads and ink reservoirs for the 3 colours and for black. A complete replacement costs about $500-$600. The colour reservoirs look the same but there must be small detail differenes that prevent you putting them into the wrong bay. Similarly all4 head look the same but are in fact unique.
I presume this "time expired" message is something to do with an inbuilt chip that knows the time since it was first used, or something? I'd assumed that it wouldn't respond to being filled. If it would i'd put any old ink in the colour reservoirs just to get it going on black.
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Thanks for those. As it's expiration rather than lack of ink, the latter two aren't what I need right now. The first one is for a different printer, but I might have a look inside mine to see if I can find a similar battery.

HP rang me this morning to say that the printer can't be used in black only, something to do with 2-way printing was used as a reason. Suggested the printer is "old" (actually it is 6 years old) - they see anything out of warranty as "old". Not my definition, although I'm sure many manufacturers would like us to think that.
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I'm glad I could help.  Thanks for the fun question, the grade and the points.

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