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server set up

Greetings,
I am looking to separate our applications to separate servers.
This is what i have in mind. Is this possible? Is it true you can only have one sbs 2003 in a network?
Sbs 2003 - sharepoint, crm 3.0 and exchange 2003.
windows server 2003 - third party application.
and then a third server for development.

The above being on one site.

Is it possible then to have a dev server on another site (wan - same vpn) that will not interfere with the first set up.

Really looking for guidelines on what is possible. Thanks.
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sunny-j
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bartaalderingCommented:
it's not possible to create a domaintrust with a SBS 2003 server. SBS 2003 is intended for small networks so MS has removed this function. I would advise you to upgrade to Windows 2003 Standard Edition. Then you can create the trust en attach the two servers.

If you following this approach you need the licenses voor the software wich are included in the SBS version (Exchange, Sharepoint etc).
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the_b1ackfoxCommented:
1) It is true that you can only have 1 sbs server in a domain.  Adding another will cause one of the servers to shut down.  You CAN have an SBS server in another domain on the same wire however (dev server)
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
You can only have ONE SBS server in a domain because the SBS server must be the FSMO master domain controller.  You CAN have other servers and even other DCs in the network.

You can put sharepoint and crm on a separate server, but you should leave exchange on the SBS server.  
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weareitCommented:
And to clarify on b1ackfox (same wire as long as you are not running DHCP Services on the second SBS server)  SBS will automatically shutdown it's DHCP Service if it detects another DHCP Source.

-saige-
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Jeffrey Kane - TechSoEasyPrincipal ConsultantCommented:
Not only can you NOT have other SBS's on your network, you can't separate out the applications to other servers under SBS licensing.

The question I would have for you is WHY?  How many users are on your network?  Because a properly provisioned machine will run everything you described above just fine.

Jeff
TechSoEasy
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sunny-jAuthor Commented:
Thanks guys,  i realise that we can't have more than one sbs on the network. One server as you say should be fine for all our needs. The reason for the second server (possibly running windows server 2000/3 so not to create licensing or conflict issues) is to host a single application (document retrieval and storage). I know we could probably put this on the main server but i thought separating this third party application from other core applications like crm, exchange and sharepoint might keep the system running smoothly.
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Jeffrey Kane - TechSoEasyPrincipal ConsultantCommented:
That's a completely different question than what you asked.... or at least now it seems as though its different.

You can add as many additional servers as you like to an SBS-based domain.  See http://sbsurl.com/addserver for details.

Jeff
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sunny-jAuthor Commented:
Thanks for the note Jeff. Yes, its not so much completely different but more of a clarification. In any case, thank you and everyone else for your input. What i have leant is that if possible, it is better to keep all the applications on one server but f we do need to separate, be aware of conflict and ensure carefully planned out. Thanks again.
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Jeffrey Kane - TechSoEasyPrincipal ConsultantCommented:
"What i have leant is that if possible, it is better to keep all the applications on one server but f we do need to separate, be aware of conflict and ensure carefully planned out"

Well, maybe I did understand your question correctly the first time I read it...

Just to be clear... you CANNOT separate applications from your SBS which are part of the SBS Package (Primarily Exchange & SQL Server).  Additionally, if you have the Small Business Edition of CRM 3.0, you cannot install that on a separate server either.  Licensing requires that all these be installed on a single machine... so it's not a matter of being aware of conflicts... it's just not possible unless you transition out of SBS licensing.

FYI, Document Storage and Retrieval is very easily accomplished with Windows SharePoint Services Document Library... and you can easily integrate this into CRM if you like:
http://www.microsoft.com/dynamics/crm/using/deploy/iframesharepoint.mspx

Jeff
TechSoEasy
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sunny-jAuthor Commented:
Thanks Jeff regarding your additional note. Much appreciated. I did have sharepoint in mind for document management to work with CRM 3.0 so thank you very much for the link. The problem being we will need to have access to the third party application as its not that easy to extract the documents from it.

To finally clarify, instead of adding the question again here, i have added a new question here so not to take up

http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Microsoft_Operating_Systems/Q_22920404.html


Regards.
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