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Old IDE hard drive data not detected after a new drive installed.

Okay, something weird has happened.  I have installed a new hard drive and now the original drive will not boot!
First - I booted up my clients system with some new RAM, just to check the speed. Worked great.  I then installed a new hard drive making the old drive the 2nd IDE drive on the Primary channel.  
I ran the Windows XP installation and when it came to the point of which drive to format, I stopped and exited and removed the 2nd IDE drive (the original with the OS still on it...didn't want to format it by mistake!)
I rebooted and ran through the Windows XP install.  New drive working great with all patches etc.
I then decided to add the original drive back as a slave to transfer over any data.  I set both drives up on the Primary IDE channel and used Cable Select.
Booted up...CMOS sees both drives correctly...go into Windows XP and look at My Computer and the 2nd drive is not there??????  I check Disk Management....it sees the 2nd drive but as 'unallocated'

What did I do wrong?  Is the data lost?  I tried booting up again with the original drive back in and the new drive removed.  Same result...will not boot.
I will be trying the drive in another machine.  Any suggestions?

Thanks!
Ian
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chilternPCCommented:
try using the jumpers to select master slave instead of the cable select. - the jumpers are on the hard drives.
try with just the orginal drive.
good luck
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isitcomputersAuthor Commented:
Tired original drive with jumper set to master (the exact way the system was when I got it and when it was working)  Boots to a flashing cursor in the top left corner of the screen.  Did the MBR get blown away somehow?  The client did complain of the computer being slow and I said it is either RAM or HD as there was no malware or viruses to be seen.  Maybe just horrible timing.
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chilternPCCommented:
I feel for you  - it might be worth buying a disc recovery program or an undelete program:
like
http://www.recovermyfiles.com/
or
http://www.pctools.com/file-recover/?ref=google_fr&gclid=CKXT0cfqoI8CFQ3mlAodNRSWVw

I haven't tried these ones - but its worth doing, it might be like you say the MBR has been stuffed - but then you wouldthink you could see it as a slave? if its not making any clicking noises then its still possible to recovery the data.
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isitcomputersAuthor Commented:
Yea...I have been in the business for quite a few years and this has to be the strangest yet!  I could see if the drive crashed, then I would run a recovery program (I have http://www.recovermyfiles.com by the way...works great!)
I am still trying to figure out what would have caused the drive to suddenly decide to not work!  
I will try a few more things, including the recovery program and let you know.
I have a copy of the Ultimate Boot disk.  Do you think I should attempt a rebuild of the MBR? or using fixmbr option etc.  
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chilternPCCommented:
scary mary -
I think it were me there I would put the disc back in as the master boot of the XP CD and go into 'r' for repair and do a CHKDSK /P  several times (I've found it works after 3 times)  and also a FIXBOOT and FIXMBR  (retry booting offthe disc after each  command)
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isitcomputersAuthor Commented:
CHKDSK /P X 3, no affect.
FIXBOOT - couldn't find drive to fix
FIXMBR - created new boot record on device, still no boot

I am still thinking of other ways, but looks like a quick format and recovery program.
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chilternPCCommented:
good luck
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PUNKYCommented:
How about repair installation?
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isitcomputersAuthor Commented:
Actually I forgot about that option.  I am running a recovery program right now.  I will see what I get and then try the repair.
Thanks!
Looks like a long night....
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isitcomputersAuthor Commented:
Went to do a repair install and realized I already did a quick format to try and recover the files....so the drive showed up as "NEW VOLUME"
I am still baffled as to why this occurred....unless it really did just decide to pack it in at that moment.  Not irony, but coincidence that I am installing a new drive and it decides to die.....maybe it was hurt...LOL!
Thanks for all your help....will let you know how it goes.
Ian
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PUNKYCommented:
Oh no, you should select repair not format though.
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isitcomputersAuthor Commented:
Too late!  I am pressed for time so I thought a recovery was the way to go.  As it didn't recognize the drive, I don't think repair would have worked.  I tried the other fixmbr etc to no avail.....looks like the recovery has found everything.
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PUNKYCommented:
Do you think it is weird? setup / repair install could not find the drive, but recovery does. However, if you can get data recovery then it is good news.

Good luck :o)
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isitcomputersAuthor Commented:
Recovery found it only after I did a quick format.  Can the quick format be undone and something else tried?
I have saved a tonne of files off the drive, but they are all named 'RECOVERD WORD 1' etc.
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nobusCommented:
>>   when it came to the point of which drive to format, I stopped and exited and removed the 2nd IDE drive   <<   if you did this under power, you may have ruined the FAT, or even the disk !

>>  Can the quick format be undone and something else tried?  <<   no need to, it is the same as the full format, which only takes so long for scanning ALL sectors on the disk ...
 
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nobusCommented:
...and that is why recovery found everything : you ruined the bootsector (sec 0)
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isitcomputersAuthor Commented:
" if you did this under power, you may have ruined the FAT, or even the disk !"
Not done while powered.  Hard drive was removed when system powered down and unplugged.
Thanks for all your help.
Cheers!
Ian
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