Second Domain does not meet license requirements.

Previously we added another SBS 2k3 and we goofed because we used the wrong serial key when we installed the second server.

So we un-installed, and reinstalled with the correct key and we are now getting a network wide message saying that.

"Server 2 does not meet the correct licensing requirements" etc.

I checked the keys on both servers and they are correct and different now, and we only have two servers atm.

Is something stored locally on the main server that spouts the same message when a server with the same name joins the domain even though its key is different?  How can I fix this, as it also seems to be a problem with being able to see Server 2 on the network.

No one can ping Server 2 but server 2 can ping everyone else.

Thanks

Jeremy
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dnudelmanCommented:
SBS is designed to be a stand alone server in the network as the only domain controller. you can have othe member servers.
On the technet blog for SBS you can fing great information on SBS licensing and Domain replication.

http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/2007/10/04/debunking-the-myth-about-additional-domain-controllers-replica-dcs-in-an-sbs-domain.aspx

The following FAQs answer these and other questions related to SBS licensing and installation:
http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsServer2003/sbs/evaluation/faq/licensing.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/evaluation/faq/setup.mspx 


Best of luck!
Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
Sorry, but dnudelman is partially incorrect.  The links should have accurate information, but his statement that it the only domain controller is incorrect.  You can have other DCs, that's fine, but the the system must be the FSMO master DC for the domain.

The key here, it sounds like, is that you bought a SECOND SBS server - so, correct me if I'm misinterpreting, but you now have TWO SBS Servers on your network.  THIS, you can't have.  There can be only ONE SBS server because, as I mentioned before, it must be the FSMO master - and you can't have two FSMO masters each controlling all the roles in one domain.

If this is the case, you need to return the server/SBS ASAP if you still can and get a second server with Windows Server 2003 R2 STANDARD edition - NOT SBS.
recruititAuthor Commented:
We basically had one domain controller already, and then we had the second and I used dcpromo to join as another domain on the existing network.

Your saying this is the problem?
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recruititAuthor Commented:
So can I just leave the server on the network as like a client machine/pc and not as a domain controller?  We need it to replicate data back and forth from the main domain.
Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
First, I'm not sure who you are addressing in your last comment.

Second, you didn't answer my question - do you have TWO "Microsoft Windows Small Business Server 2003" servers?  If so, then yes, THAT is your problem.  You can only have ONE "Microsoft Windows Small Business Server 2003" - You can have as many as you like "Microsoft Windows Server 2003" systems.

You CAN have two Domain Controllers - that's fine - but ONLY ONE SBS system...
recruititAuthor Commented:
Yep we have two SBS.

Im just trying to convert it to a member server with dcpromo now and its telling me the rpc server is unavailable.
Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
You can't - that's a license violation.  SBS has integrated checking to ENSURE that it is your FSMO Master DC - which means you can't have two of them.  PERIOD.  Return it.  Get standard server.  Or eat the cost and get standard server.  In either case, you will not have a successful time trying to do what you want to here.
Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
To put it another way, if you are successful in demoting it... you can expect it to reboot itself every hour or two with a notice in the event log that it was rebooted because of a license violation.  If an SBS server is not the FSMO master DC of your domain within 2 weeks of install (might be 1 week - I don't recall) then it will simply reboot itself every hour or so.

Here's some more reading:
http://www.iqubed.biz/blog/2006/07/24/why-you-cant-run-multiple-sbs-2003-servers/
recruititAuthor Commented:
Ok, just to get this absolutely clear.

Having two SBS servers on the same network is a license violation, even if they have seperate serials keys, and I have only 1 domain controller?  (Wheres the second could be a filer server or something).
recruititAuthor Commented:
And this is true even if the second server is on the switch but not in the domain.
Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
I'll repeat and rephrase:

There are 5 FSMO Roles in any Active Directory based domain.  In a non-SBS domain, you can split these up on up to 5 DCs.  In an SBS domain, they must ALL reside on the SBS server.  There is NO OPTION in this.  It's a REQUIREMENT.  Since you cannot have two sets of FSMO masters in one domain, you can therefore only have ONE SBS domain controller.  PERIOD.  You can have other NON-SBS domain controllers, but only ONE SBS Domain Controller.  SBS was designed to be and Microsoft ENFORCES that it is your FSMO master domain controller for the domain that it is in.  You CANNOT demote it.  If you do successfully demote it, it will start rebooting on it's own every hour or two until and unless you make your FSMO master DC.  

I can continue to rephrase and find synonyms, but it's not going to change anything.  The keys make no difference.  and again, you CAN have more than one Domain Controller, but the second MUST be a STANDARD Windows Server 2003 system (Enterprise too would work - but NOT SBS).

Further, while you may not intentionally want to violate your licensing agreement, any "successful" attempt to circumvent this requirement would be a violation of licensing and is not something we can help you do here.  (Frankly, I'm not sure it's even possible with any degree of ease).
Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
If the second server is not on the domain, than it must be it's own domain.  Again, NO OPTION.  Every SBS server must be in a domain within 2 weeks of installation and by then it must also be the FSMO master DC of that domain.  PERIOD.  Technically, you can have multiple SBS servers on the same subnet and switch, but there can be no "easy" file sharing/user authentication between the two of them (ie Trusts).

The only other option you have is to buy the Transition pack which removes the SBS restrictions.  It also costs a minimum of about $1000... maybe more - I've never had to buy it.  This is more than the cost of a Server 2003 standard license.  If you bought a single transition pack, you could remove the restrictions from ONE of the SBS servers and join it to the other SBS servers domain.  To me, THIS would be a waste of money in most instances.

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recruititAuthor Commented:
Ah right I understand now.

Thanks for your help.
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