two SATA and one IDE

i have three Hard drive in my PC (two SATA and one IDE), but when i try to install Vista I got problem, so i removed the IDE one and everything gone smooth. now i want to install it again and want to know what should be the jumper and BIOS configuration to avoid any problem (IDE HD has only data storage with no boot) and what should i do before installing Ubuntu in the empty space.
currently my configuration are the following:

c-> 40 GB   from SATA 250GB
      210 un-formated/no portion (plaining Linux here)
 
e-> 500GB

     
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Pétur Ingi EgilssonSoftware Engineer -- ConsultantCommented:
What problem do you have when trying to install Vista?

Make sure you install Linux AFTER Windows.. as windows is a dumb nazi-mind-stated commercial product from the devil, It will not respect your hard drive. iI it finds GRUB or LILO in your boot secords it will happily overwrite all the configuration on it's way to world domination.
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Peter HartCommented:
switch it off and install thedrive - vista will see it as a separate  drive
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fahadmanAuthor Commented:

1- what should be the jumper indicated to cable or slave?
2- what BIOS option should i pick?

i was not able to install VISTA when i have IDE hocked up, now i will connect it and try, but this is after installing Linux.
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PUNKYCommented:
It does not matter with master, slave, or cable select (CS) jumper for IDE drive if you have only 1 drive there (unless you have IDE drive and DVD/CD on same cable). If you want, use either CS or Master. You can find the jumper configuration on hard drive label or at connector.

You shold install VISTA first, then the Linux. This way you can use LILO as OS selection on boot screen.
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fahadmanAuthor Commented:
what us LILO about? "LILO as OS selection on boot screen"
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fahadmanAuthor Commented:
i install VISTA C: and everything is ok, in the same HD free space unformated i want to install KUBUNTU but during the installation it asked me which hard disk (i chose the first) then it overwrite all my VISTA installtion!!!
is it unposible to install two OS in the same HD or must be in separate HD?
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PUNKYCommented:
Fahadman,

Have you read the link I posted above? If not, please read.

You really need to partition the drive during install Ubuntu (Kubuntu???) as screen shots provided in that link.
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fahadmanAuthor Commented:
the link is about UBUNTU, but i have KUBUNTO which didn't give you option its just ask you which drive you want to install then it will overwrite everything you previously installed even i made empty partition in the same drive without success, i feel that Kubuntu required separate HD  
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PUNKYCommented:
I dont know the Kubuntu yet, but it is Linux anyway. You have to shrink the partition or partition the drive that you already install Vista, and leave the new partition as Unallocated. Then, isntall the Kubuntu on that partition. Please see the link:

http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first 

You can use other drive for it as well, just navigate the installation to it.
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fahadmanAuthor Commented:
anyway the IDE didn't work together with 2 hard disk but i did the installtion without the installing the IDE, the problem is that i don't want to have the IDE as my primary i just want to add it since it has some general data, two SATA working fine but the IDE is not matched even after playing with my BIOS, IDE shows up in the CH0 while SATA always show up in CH1. so what is the limitation here or what is the problem?
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PUNKYCommented:
Can you list the motherboard make/model? Do you mean the IDE shown as primary boot drive, or primary channel in bios list?
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fahadmanAuthor Commented:
thanks Punky for following up, the motherboard is MSI PM8MV and it has two SATA slot which i use and two IDE one is connected to my CD and second to my IDE HD. the problem is that installing the the three HDs together are something no possible, here is the scenarios.
A. when two SATA hard disk installed and the BIOS is on RAID option "actually i don't know if this cheap motherboard has raid" then everything is fine and i will be able to boot and see the hard disk and end up with windows show up.

B. if i hook up the IDE with "A" and boot, only one SATA HD with the IDE show up while booting and windows will not start.

C. if i keep "B" and change the BIOS onto IDE i got all show up but no windows will start.

D. if i keep "A" and change the BIOS to IDE, then windows will not start even the two HD show up while booting.

note that:  my windows installed in one of SATA HD.

thanks
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PUNKYCommented:
First, no matter you setup, drives (IDE and SATA) must be shown during post test and detected in bios, if not, then it is problem. I suggest that to check 2 sections in bios:

- In the page that listed all drives see if bios detected them correctly.
- In the page that shows boot order, try to set the boot drive (1 of sata which has OS). Then select C or D items above.
- In the page that you can change IDE or RAID, is there any other options?
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