Sun Java Installation Breaks Internet Explorer Developer Toolbar in SBS / XP SP2 environment

When installing Java (Latest version), to our new SBS 2003 / Windows XP SP2 Environment, the internet explorer developer toolbar does not start anymore, instead it opens a Java console. (It does so even when i set within the java settings to never run the console).

When I uninstall Java IE Developer Toolbar works fine again,

When first installing java and then the Toolbar, results into the same effect.

What am I missing here?
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and235100Commented:
Is there an updated version of the toolbar available?
Perhaps the toolbar requires the same version of Java installed as what it was designed with - to function properly?
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PatrickAdrichemAuthor Commented:
No, we've got the latest version of the toolbar too,

the weird part is that without java it runs fine, without any problems, with java it opens the java console,
however if i run under administrator, it does run fine.

But when i'm using filemon and regmon from sysinfernals, i don't get any errors as far as i can see.
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and235100Commented:
FYI; Process Monitor incorporates both these tools:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/FileAndDisk/processmonitor.mspx

Have you tried giving a normal user temporary full access to the C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer folder?
Or - if that doesn't work - how about giving them temporary full access to the java directory?
( C:\Program Files\Java )
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PatrickAdrichemAuthor Commented:
Gave them full rights to the IE dir, the Java dir, and the IE and Java registry parts.
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and235100Commented:
What version JDK have you got installed?
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp

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PatrickAdrichemAuthor Commented:
We do not have JDK installed at all
we installed JRE 6 update 3 (latest version)

Installing JDK 6 Update 4 did not fix the problem.
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and235100Commented:
There must be an issue between the version of java the toolbar uses - and the installed JRE.
Does the toolbar function in another browser - i.e. Firefox?
If it can run in there (or a alternative version) - then possibly the issue is to do with IE...
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PatrickAdrichemAuthor Commented:
No its a toolbar only for IE, made by microsoft. (Look for Internet Explorer Developer toolbar).

What i don't get is, when i do not have java installed @ all, it works fine.
when i install java, it only runs when you start it as administrator, and no longer when you start it as a user.
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and235100Commented:
Well I just installed it - and Windows Reporting keeps reporting that IE has crashed every time I attempt to close IE7!
I have JRE 6 Update 3 installed.

So - I think there are major issues with this toolbar - can you use an alternative?
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PatrickAdrichemAuthor Commented:
well currently we just "uninstalled" java @ the technical department,
altough we don't have crashes, but that might be a windows Vista issue,
we're under windows XP pro
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and235100Commented:
I am not running Vista (on this computer at least). - XP SP2.
When I uninstall Java - the toolbar works fine.

I suggest that your issue is similar to mine - IE7 has compatibility issues with this toolbar.
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PatrickAdrichemAuthor Commented:
Well i've inserted a ticket @ the microsoft forums too, so if i find anything there, i will return the result here.

BTW are there any alternatives? toolbars that run within Internet Explorer? because yeah we've also got firefox, but everything
must be developed in IE first, firefox second. So thats why we use the IE toolbar.
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PatrickAdrichemAuthor Commented:
Actually I don't agree with that,

Yes he helped me trying to figure it out, But its not a solution, because the problem still has not been solved.
Thats why i did not close the topic yet.

If you would accept his answer, it would result into having a wrongly answered question within the database on which users will think that it has been solved and all they see is that its a problem between java and the toolbar, which i already stated at the beginning of the question.

Its not that i don't want to give him points, because if a solution comes up, he would atleast get assisted. But thats all because its not the solution to my question.
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and235100Commented:
There is a development issue here - one that can't be resolved by a registry hack or another "fix".
As I experienced the same issue - there is very likely a widespread problem.

To be honest - I don't see the need for this toolbar. I would never have a requirement to use it.

Have you tried the toolbar with IE6? Does it work with that?
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PatrickAdrichemAuthor Commented:
It must be solvable, since if i run the application as administrator everything works fine, and there are no issues.

Yet when i run it as a client the issue occurs.

Yet i can't seem to find it within the processmonitors.
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