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More USB pinout problems
With help from EE I got another USB pinout problem solved - even got both front USB sockets working.
By finding the 5v+ with a voltage tester I'm a bit further advanced but I can't identify the rest.
It's a 6IWF rev 1 mainboard. I found a pdf file for this MB at
http://china.giga-byte.com/FileList/Manual/motherboard_manual_6iwf_e.pdf
Great file but it isn't the same mainboard!!! the USB pinout is different and not in the same place. There are other differences too. The author disclaims all responsibility - he's right!
This pinout looks quite classic but the blank is on the other side
5v x x x x
x x x x
gap
(the gap is the guide for the original USB plug)
The 5v pin is the first one on the top row on the left - there is only one...
I've tried the obvious things Red, White, Green, Black starting from the 5v pin and I've tried the green and white connectors on several different places.
Is there a "REALLY" comprehensive tutorial with "ALL" possible pinouts?
Otherwise can someone point me towards the real plan of this MB
Thanks in advance
Keith
By finding the 5v+ with a voltage tester I'm a bit further advanced but I can't identify the rest.
It's a 6IWF rev 1 mainboard. I found a pdf file for this MB at
http://china.giga-byte.com/FileList/Manual/motherboard_manual_6iwf_e.pdf
Great file but it isn't the same mainboard!!! the USB pinout is different and not in the same place. There are other differences too. The author disclaims all responsibility - he's right!
This pinout looks quite classic but the blank is on the other side
5v x x x x
x x x x
gap
(the gap is the guide for the original USB plug)
The 5v pin is the first one on the top row on the left - there is only one...
I've tried the obvious things Red, White, Green, Black starting from the 5v pin and I've tried the green and white connectors on several different places.
Is there a "REALLY" comprehensive tutorial with "ALL" possible pinouts?
Otherwise can someone point me towards the real plan of this MB
Thanks in advance
Keith
There is an unusual pinout at the bottom of this page.
http://www.frontx.com/cpx108_2.html
http://www.frontx.com/cpx108_2.html
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Thanks for getting back to me.
I don't really rememember which box this MB came out of (I do voluntary work for a charitable organisation here in France where I set up a computer section. We rebuild old boxes for sale thereby bringing in money for the "inmates" and at the same time teaching them how to do this sort of thing for themselves.) It was probably a NEC flat workstation. It's a 1 GB CPU.
I've got that page in my new collection of pinouts and I tried the last one to no avail...
I don't really rememember which box this MB came out of (I do voluntary work for a charitable organisation here in France where I set up a computer section. We rebuild old boxes for sale thereby bringing in money for the "inmates" and at the same time teaching them how to do this sort of thing for themselves.) It was probably a NEC flat workstation. It's a 1 GB CPU.
I've got that page in my new collection of pinouts and I tried the last one to no avail...
The first thing is to positively identify the motherboard. You can do this in a number of ways.
On start up you can copy down the BIOS string which appears on the post message page when starting.
Here is an image of that, the BIOS string is at the bottom on the screen
http://www.highspheres.com/products/wakemeup/images/bios_post.jpg
You can try software like CPUz that may identify the motherboard.
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
NEC is closely related to Packard Bell, they have a P6IWF motherboard
could this be it?
http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/pb/mb/challenger.htm
On start up you can copy down the BIOS string which appears on the post message page when starting.
Here is an image of that, the BIOS string is at the bottom on the screen
http://www.highspheres.com/products/wakemeup/images/bios_post.jpg
You can try software like CPUz that may identify the motherboard.
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
NEC is closely related to Packard Bell, they have a P6IWF motherboard
could this be it?
http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/pb/mb/challenger.htm
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It is indeed - exactly that. Any way to get at the USB pinout from there?
OK then it is an ECS 6IWF.
unfortunately ECS has removed the manual from their pages, but it seems to be a proprietary plug used in the packard bell Allegra case. I'll search some more, might just come up with something.
unfortunately ECS has removed the manual from their pages, but it seems to be a proprietary plug used in the packard bell Allegra case. I'll search some more, might just come up with something.
Is this it. It comes from another motherboard but from the same Allegra case that should have the same Front USB connector cable. There is a discrepancy with what you described.
The original pinout you showed ;
5v x x x x
x x x x
[GAP]
Shown on the Packard Bell P6IWF picture as;
5v x x x
x x x x x
[GAP]
frontUSB.gif
The original pinout you showed ;
5v x x x x
x x x x
[GAP]
Shown on the Packard Bell P6IWF picture as;
5v x x x
x x x x x
[GAP]
frontUSB.gif
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... the picture of the board is the same as Sparkmaker posted => I posted the additional link because it shows the front panel header with the "spare" +5v connection [which, like in your previous question, may be very helpful here :-) ]
Gary-->Would the N/C designated pin be the extra 5v?
Disregard my last post, I now see the extra +5v on the front panel connector.
No, that's "no connection". But the front panel header (mostly unused with a different case than the original) has a +5v connection that's almost certainly not needed here. Note the PANEL1 connector near the bottom of the page I linked to. The author had a very similar problem a couple days ago with another Packard Bell based motherboard ... it had another obscure USB connector (THAT took a good bit of searching on old forums to find the pinout), which also only had a single +5v connection; but it had a very similar (identical except for two pins) front panel connector, with a +5v connection that Keith was able to use to power the 2nd USB connection.
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You're both right - I inversed the empty pin in my diagram - getting old...
I tried to get back to you a few minutes back but the site was down.
I've tried it out now and added this pinout to my collection !
Needless to say - it works perfectly. Curiously enough the first pin - USBP0 and USBP1 are the + pins and the # pins are the minus pins. I tried the # on the + to start with...
That gives:
x x red 5v
x x
x x green +
x x white -
black gnd x
I'll use th 5v pin on the front panel header like I did the last time to give me the second front USB socket.
I'll split the points
Many many thanks
I tried to get back to you a few minutes back but the site was down.
I've tried it out now and added this pinout to my collection !
Needless to say - it works perfectly. Curiously enough the first pin - USBP0 and USBP1 are the + pins and the # pins are the minus pins. I tried the # on the + to start with...
That gives:
x x red 5v
x x
x x green +
x x white -
black gnd x
I'll use th 5v pin on the front panel header like I did the last time to give me the second front USB socket.
I'll split the points
Many many thanks
Methinks Packard Bell took their proprietary obligations very seriously with those pinouts.
The USBP0 and USBP0# acting as DATA- AND DATA + is appropriate as each USB port would need a - and + DATA pin.
The 0 and 1 each designate a separate port.
The USBP0 and USBP0# acting as DATA- AND DATA + is appropriate as each USB port would need a - and + DATA pin.
The 0 and 1 each designate a separate port.
You're most welcome (as always).
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Very difficult to split the points fairly. Hope my decision suits you.
Thanks for the points. It was a challenge to find, but thats what makes it fun.
Is this board from an OEM? if so what is the model # of the OEM computer.