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How do I burn a DVD without getting "Burn failure - an error has occured in burning the CD/DVD"

I have found  Media Center Burn CD/DVD to be very unreliable - almost always, I get "Burn failure - an error has occured in burning the CD/DVD".  I try different DVD media, but cannot get it to burn.  How can I fix this??

With Regards-
Sam
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Here is a well rated CD/DVD freeware burning program : http://www.freewaregenius.com/2007/09/25/cdburnerxp-4/

I have found windows to be unreliable at burning a lot of times.
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Doesn't look like it burns Media Center recorded files.

Anyone else?
I'm running Vista Ultimate
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Do you have a default burner bundled with your DVD  ie CD burner?
I recomend you use that instead of WMP.
Could be Nero or roxio
DMTechGrooup: - thanks for the link - I had already found that and HOPED it was the problem, but it doesn't apply to my situation...

Hi Merete-
I am using Media CENTER, not WMP.  I wasn't aware that WMP can burn Video DVDs?
Yes it sure can. It uses the default burner just like your media center. You may have Roxio Easy Media Creator onboard that seems to be the standard shipped software, Nero is better.


SAbboushi I think you give the key here>Media Center recorded files.
A little explaination of the different types of DVD>
DVD can be burnt as data disc or DVD video but if you have recorded/captured a video in avi or WMV you'll need to convert it to mpeg then re-author to DVD.
that's where you DVD authoring software comes in.
CD's can be burnt as an audio cd mp3 cd and a data cd.
If you have recorded an audio clip WMA you may have to choose Audio disc format.

On that please explain what you have captured in the media center.. Video format or audio format.
Here's a couple of guides
Burn your movies onto DVDs
This article applies to computers purchased with Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 pre-installed that have a DVD burner drive.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/using/DVD/burntvtodvd.mspx
http://forum.videohelp.com/topic298648.html

Burning Recorded TV Episodes to DVD
http://www.lockergnome.com/media/2005/06/05/burning-recorded-tv-episodes-to-dvd/
Hi Merete-
Thanks for the overview.  
>> Yes it sure can [WMP can burn video DVDs]
I have WMP 11 installed - the only option I see it to burn a DATA DVD (not a Video DVD).  Am I missing something?

>> please explain what you have captured in the media center
I am trying to burn recorded TV shows and movies to DVD.

The link you gave for Burning TV episodes 1) does not pertain to burning with Media Center, and 2) does not seem to address dvr-ms files

Again, I am trying to get Media Center within Vista Ultimate to burn my Media Center recorded dvr-ms files.  There seems to be a problem and I would like to resolve it.  If there is a free alternate way to easily burn these files to DVD, I would be interested in that too.
Hi SAbboushi,
To use a quote
Simple question. If you have a media centre why would you want to burn anything to disc that can be watched on a standalone player?
Why not just burn the files to a disk as avi or data discs?
you can watch them straight off the disc on the MCE machine anytime you want.
http://www.xpmediacentre.com.au/community/tv-recordings-conversion-archiving/5255-dvr-ms-dvd.html
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Those links actualy are very similar to your problem doesnt matter if it's Vista meda center or xp media center , luckily I fgured out it was the format your capturing since you never stated that.
Your comment>>I have WMP 11 installed - the only option I see it to burn a DATA DVD (not a Video DVD).  Am I missing something?<< yes obviosuly you dont get it.
You want to create a DVD video..

ok repeating you cant burn a DVD video in the format dvr-ms files only data discs.
They have to be re-authored, I already outlined all that above..
The structure of a DVD is a VIDEO_TS folder with vobs/iso and bup files.
Ever explored a bought DVD video?

Please answer my questions and fill in the bits, what do you have Roxio Easy Media Creator or Nero??
Your comment>>
The link you gave for Burning TV episodes (1) does not pertain to burning with Media Center,  << indeed it does!!! I know it's for xp but should use the same principal.
Your comment here>>
and ( 2) does not seem to address dvr-ms files?? yes it does this is link for 2 >> Burn files recorded from media center?<<
http://forum.videohelp.com/topic298648.html
extract from it>>
Windows MCE does not record as ASF/WMA-WMV  it records to a .dvr-ms file.
which is nothing but a mpeg file in a wrapper.
You can use a tool called dvrms toolbox to extract the file to a mpg then you can use any of your normal dvd creation software you prefer to use.
read the full guide.
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So on all of the above to proceed and give you a better understanding.
You have to convert and re-author these dvr-ms file to DVD video mpeg2.
Vista Movie Maker Natively Edits DVR-MS Files
Converting DVR-MS Files Created by Media Center PCs
http://www.deskshare.com/Resources/articles/dmc_DVRMS.aspx

Is this for yourself?
A lot more work :)
Merete-
>> you can watch them straight off the disc on the MCE machine anytime you want.
I know.  This is not what I asked about.

And although I appreciate all the info you provided (I know lots of it already), you have not addressed my specific question: HOW DO I FIX THE PROBLEM!

SAbboushi
I have answered it.
WMC captures in the wrong format for DVD, so you'll need to convert the dvr-ms files to mpeg2 then re-author them in your default video software then burn to dvd video using that.
Regards Merete
Merete-

OK - now I see why there was such a disconnect: You are under the impression that WMC CANNOT do what I am asking.

WMC HAS an option to burn to DVD.  It is pretty cool - allows you to add multiple recordings and automatically compresses.  Has a nice MCE menu it automatically adds to the DVD.  I have used it in the past.  It is now broken.

Anyone else?
Oh !!,
how is it broken? any errors we can work on
did you record something differently?
When did it stop working?
here is some help from MS
Last Review : May 21, 2008
Error message when you use Windows Media Center to burn a CD or a DVD from a folder that represents the root of a drive in Windows Vista: "An error has occurred in burning the CD/DVD
SYMPTOMS
Consider the following scenario:
 On a computer that is running Windows Vista Ultimate or Windows Vista Home Premium, you have pictures that are stored on a hard disk drive.  
In Windows Vista Media Center, you use the Library Setup Wizard to add the root of the hard disk drive to the list of folders that Media Center watches for media files.  
You start the Burn CD/DVD Wizard in Media Center, you add pictures from Picture Library from the folder that represents the root of the hard disk drive, and then you start the burn process.
In this scenario, you receive the following error message:
BURN FAILURE
An error has occurred in burning the CD/DVD
CAUSE
This problem occurs when the root of a drive is included as a folder in the watched list in Media Center Library Setup, and you try to burn files from this .
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/952983

How to
Burn a CD or DVD in Windows Media Center
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/help/9ee6cb78-bd7e-4de3-a154-82d40c4289e01033.mspx
Hi Merete-
See error in original post : )

DMTechGrooup already proposed the "root folder" solution above - this was not the problem.

oops  apologies i missed that..
K thanks
Ok while you have me here, I read through everything so far,
You havent mentioned any events errors, if you could post a couple of those backl here please.
also what media burner do you have Roxio?
It seems to be a big problem experienced by many maybe if we can find the solution will help others.
The common error is this>>
2 errors; "SBEServer has
stopped working." followed by "The Media Center Extensibility Host has
stopped working."
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there is a few solutions though very sporatic.
It seems to point to the 3rd party software interfering with WMC inbuilt software.
Unlike XP where you had to install a DVD mpeg plugin..
 WMC and Vista  come already with it's own mpeg plug in for DVD burn.
But like most OEM computers they just add a DVD burner with their own software bundled with.
Here's the right course of action I think you coudl use..
remove  (Cyberlink MakeDVD)
remove all of Sonic Burn Engine
including the entire Roxio software.
Reboot.
Good Luck

Thanks Merete - now I think we are on the same page.  No errors reported... nothing in the error log.

I don't have any Cyberlink products installed that I am aware of (nothing listed to uninstall).
Doesn't Microsoft use the Sonic burn engine for Media Center?

Discovered some more information - hope this helps others that have this problem (there were numerous posts on the web asking for help to this problem but no real solutions that I found):
1) I restored my original factory image and received the same error
2) I realized that the PRIOR times I had sucessfully burned a DVD from within Media Center, the LENGTH of the recording was around 1 hour
3) I tried burning variious length recordings and discovered that Media Center (at least on my Vista Ultimate 64 bit laptop) will burn recordings that are NO LONGER THAN about 1hour 49 minutes in length (this is not the length of the SHOW recorded but the actual recorded duration per Windows Explorer).  The longest recording I was able to successfully burn was 1:48:41.  Anything LONGER would FAIL for me with the error I described above.(I tried shows that were 1:50:56 and longer)

This leads me to suspect that the problem is related to the codec that Media Center is using to burn DVDs.  I am not certain whether this is a standard codec (or plugin as Merete is suggesting), or whether this can be different depending upon the OEM.
Hi SAbboushi,  referring to>>Doesn't Microsoft use the Sonic burn engine for Media Center?
I cant answer that but if that is what came bundled with your DVD yes indeed.
So I wouldn't recomend removing that.
Yes I saw many with the same problem and no solutions.
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referring to>>
This leads me to suspect that the problem is related to the codec that Media Center is using to burn DVDs.<< yes agree partially,
A codec may not be the exact right word. But it seems maybe your missing the plugin needed to burn DVD video.
Ok I recapped and found a couple of areas we could look into
referring to>>
I have WMP 11 installed - the only option I see it to burn a DATA DVD
 (not a Video DVD).  Am I missing something?<< yes so this a good indication here that you are missing something.
I'm kind of working blind here as I have never used Sonic.
Or windows media center
But in order to burn a DVD you must re-author this captured video from Media center
What it will do is convert it mpeg 2 add in bup files and ifo and convert the mpeg 2 to vobs then stick it insode a Folder called VIDEO_TS.<< that's a DVD format.

I didnt include or suggest adding codecs as it now not recomended to fix problems with video in Vista by installing codecs it has them already so it must be something else.
I have seen problems with media center and it's control over everything.
Ok work around.
I need more information on your Sonic software to see if it supports the full DVD schamingle
Sonic's DVD decoder plugin is Roxio
http://www.sonic.com/
So you'll have to use Easy media creator to re-author the videos media center created to DVD format.
Whatever the time frame is EMC will let you know if it exceeds the 4.7 gig. well actually it shoudl never exceed 4 gig as EMC any dvd burnerd require to write the lead in and lead out so it has the auto play
http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/creator/suite/
Manual here
http://tools.roxio.com/support/manuals/emc9_english/creator9_userguide.pdf
What DVD discs do you use?
DVD-R verbatum? recomended
Never DVD rewritable.
Good Luck
And fingers crossed
Merete
Thanks Merete - I have various alternatives to reauthoring the recording and do not need help there - I've been doing that for years.  My objective is to have Media Center do the burning so I do not HAVE to go through the added steps.  So the approach I have been looking for is what I need to do in order for MEDIA CENTER to burn the DVD.

I had earlier said I would be interested in learning of alternate solutions "If there is a free alternate way to easily burn these files to DVD".  To me that means something as EASY as Media Center (but that actually WORKS all the time... He He!).  In other words: point, click, and the recording ends up on the DVD without me having to worry about compression or re-authoring or anything else.

Curious why you say "never DVD rewritable"?

Rewritables are that non finalised, dvd must be finalised to play in standard dvd players on the TV
 so it's a waste of money buying them.
DVD-R is the dvd disc you must use
I still believe that is the problem Media Center does not have a re-authoring tool inbuilt.
We would assume it should have but it is a microsoft product and until Vista mepg2 plugin  was never included for the DVD support in WMP.
but that only provided playback of DVD not reauthoring it from hd dvi or the format WMC captures in.
How to record .dvr-ms files onto DVD?
http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/27692.aspx


>> Rewritables are that non finalised, dvd must be finalised to play in standard dvd players on the TV
 so it's a waste of money buying them.
Just some information for you - I MOSTLY use DVD+RWs to burn DVDs and they have worked in almost all cases for me (just a few players had problems).  I believe it has more to do with how old your player is - seems most of the ones in the past 3+ years will handle DVD+RW in my experience.  Also if I am not mistaken, I believe you can finalize DVD RWs too if you choose.  Not sure what Media Center does, but I configure my reauthoring software to finalize because I find that (as you have said), if it is not finalized, there is a high chance that a given player will not be able to handle the DVD.

>> I still believe that is the problem Media Center does not have a re-authoring tool inbuilt.
I believe that it does (see my descriptions above describing the DVD menus that Media Centers adds and the automatica compression - I am even prompted to select multiple shows to add to the same DVD).  Having said that, it would be nice IF IT WORKED CONSISTENTLY!!

CAN ANYONE CONFIRM THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BURN A 2 HOUR RECORDING WITH MEDIA CENTER IN VISTA?

Thanks for your posts.
I suggest that this post is NOT deleted as there is useful information to others that are facing the same problem.
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