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BackupExec - Should I backup DFS replicated folders, or only the original folders?

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We syncronize two file servers across our MPLS using DFS.  I noticed today in BackupExec that along with the original "DATA\sub-folders" on the primary server, we are also backing up the same sub-folders and files as they appear under another tree on that same server that begins with
"Shadow Copy Components\User Data\Distributed File System Replication\DfsrReplicatedFolders\sub-folders".

Do I need to backup both folder structures?  Instinct tells me that we should backup one or the other, but I am unclear on the ramifications of ignoring one over the other.  

Should I continue to backup both sets of folders?  And if not, which should be backed up?
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What time is your backup running?  Is it possible files are getting written to any of the DFS partners at that time?  If not there is no reason to backup anything but the main share as it is all replicated anyway.


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Also another approach which I use in practice is to have Volume Shadow Copy running on the volumes hosting DFS shares that way I do have state in time backups of the different shares.  That VSS information is then backed up.

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Thank you so much for getting back to me.  I think you've almost got me on track, but I need just a bit more clarification.  I realize I'm being a bit dense here.  My apologies.  My confusion stems I think, because I thought that only metadata was stored in the primary server's DFS system, so was confused to see actual files saved under the "shadow copy components\..\..\..\DfsrReplicatedFolders" folder of that same server.

In my case, users would only rarely be writing files during my backup window, so I can follow your suggestion of backing up only the main share.  Please bear with me, but when you reference the main share, do you mean the actual folders that existed on my primary file server prior to setting up DFS, or do you mean the folders that appear under the Shadow Copy Components folder on that same server?  And if you mean the "original" folders, do I take from this that there are not other control files under "shadow copy components" that I must backup?

Also, shoud I take from your second post that even though Backup Exec is making use of Shadow Copy, "Volume Shadow copy" must be implemented as a separate service?  I have been thinking of implementing it but have not brought myself up to speed on using it yet.

Thanks again for your response and your patience. Mike
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Thanks again.  You've motivated me to implement VSC as well.
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I realize this is really old, but I think it needs clarification since this is an important topic.

If you have folders replicated using DFSR, then you MUST include the folders under Shadow Copy Components or the replicated data will not get backed up in Backup Exec! This is especially dangerous since your job will complete without errors if you do not check it but the data will not be included in your backup. The only indicator would be that the amount of data is too low, but if you don't check that manually it is very easy to miss.

Even if the data is replicated somewhere else you may want it in your local backup for faster restores etc., and you will have to include it in at least one copy.

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