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Win32k.sys crashes despite replacement of RAM!
I am having constant Win32k.sys crashes. I replaced my RAM with brand new, fresh sticks yesterday and yet it just happened again.
what makes you believe it is the ram?
i suggest to test it with memtest86+ from www.memtest.org.
but it can be caused by many other things...
i suggest to test it with memtest86+ from www.memtest.org.
but it can be caused by many other things...
Yes, a win32k.sys crash can occur for a number of reasons not least if the win32k.sys has become corrupted.
You could right click 'My Computer' to access C:\WINDOWS\System32
Then rename the Win32k.sys file to Win32k.old
Close the window, then re-open it, or do a restart.
You should now have a new uncorrupted version of the Win32k.sys file.
It can also be due to your virtual memory file being corrupted. Take a look at this next link for details on how to 'repair' the virtual memory, with useful links to other sites>
"win32k.sys crashes ":
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-94921.php
You could right click 'My Computer' to access C:\WINDOWS\System32
Then rename the Win32k.sys file to Win32k.old
Close the window, then re-open it, or do a restart.
You should now have a new uncorrupted version of the Win32k.sys file.
It can also be due to your virtual memory file being corrupted. Take a look at this next link for details on how to 'repair' the virtual memory, with useful links to other sites>
"win32k.sys crashes ":
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-94921.php
If unresolved, there should also be a dump of the state of your system at the time it crashed.
The dumps are normally located in c:\windows\minidump\
It (or they) will contain information about the bugcheck that was generated.
Can you paste the latest dump(s) in the "Attach File" box and we can hopefully spot the culprit.
You may need to disable auto restart:
Right click My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Startup and Recovery Settings and uncheck Automatically Restart.
The dumps are normally located in c:\windows\minidump\
It (or they) will contain information about the bugcheck that was generated.
Can you paste the latest dump(s) in the "Attach File" box and we can hopefully spot the culprit.
You may need to disable auto restart:
Right click My Computer > Properties > Advanced > Startup and Recovery Settings and uncheck Automatically Restart.
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I suspected it was the RAM because when I searched for info on the problem, that's what people often guessed was the culprit.
I changed win32k.sys to win32k.old but the same thing is happening...
I've zipped the 5 latest minidumps here, as requested: http://www.sendspace.com/file/1pszib
Thanks!
I changed win32k.sys to win32k.old but the same thing is happening...
I've zipped the 5 latest minidumps here, as requested: http://www.sendspace.com/file/1pszib
Thanks!
Did you REPLACE the file or just rename it?
As I said, Assuming you were on the right track... don't you think it could then be the mainboard where the RAM sits?
As I said, Assuming you were on the right track... don't you think it could then be the mainboard where the RAM sits?
you had it several times while running firefox - can you uninstalml / reinstall it ?
Thanks for minidumps, however windbg seems unable to recognise the format. Still investigating this but if meanwhile you wish to analyse your own dump file, these will help>
"How to read the small memory dump files that Windows creates for debugging":
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315263
The !analyze -v command will probably be your most used command.
You can download windbg from this microsoft website.
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/devtools/debugging/default.mspx
A good article here>
"Windows system crashes":
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2005/041105-windows-crash.html
Please note the comments on page 2 "Getting the debugger".
"How to read the small memory dump files that Windows creates for debugging":
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315263
The !analyze -v command will probably be your most used command.
You can download windbg from this microsoft website.
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/devtools/debugging/default.mspx
A good article here>
"Windows system crashes":
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2005/041105-windows-crash.html
Please note the comments on page 2 "Getting the debugger".
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Another check you could make is to locate the DrWatson log at folder:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\DrWatson\d rwtsn32.lo g
If you find the size of the DrWatson log is over approx 2MB and the reason for crashing is 'access violation' at different locations, this is also the symptom of suspect RAM.
If still unresolved, this may be of interest>
http://www.badcaps.net/pages.php?vid=5
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\DrWatson\d
If you find the size of the DrWatson log is over approx 2MB and the reason for crashing is 'access violation' at different locations, this is also the symptom of suspect RAM.
If still unresolved, this may be of interest>
http://www.badcaps.net/pages.php?vid=5
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leew: I renamed the file to win32k.old.
Since you guys are still suspecting the RAM or mainboard issues, I will do as recommended and test the slots individually. I have 2 sticks of RAM in there so I will try one at a time in different slots and see if I can make any deductions that way.
As for other suggestions, there is no Documents folder in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users (and I searched for anything cllaed "DrWatson" to no avail). Also, if the RAM testing thing doesn't pan out, then I will try to see if Firefox could be the culprit.
Thanks for the help and I will report back in a few days with my results..
Since you guys are still suspecting the RAM or mainboard issues, I will do as recommended and test the slots individually. I have 2 sticks of RAM in there so I will try one at a time in different slots and see if I can make any deductions that way.
As for other suggestions, there is no Documents folder in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users (and I searched for anything cllaed "DrWatson" to no avail). Also, if the RAM testing thing doesn't pan out, then I will try to see if Firefox could be the culprit.
Thanks for the help and I will report back in a few days with my results..
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Dropped my Athlon 2500+ FSB back down to 166mhz and haven't had a crash since. Ran fine overclocked all these years, don't know why it's bugging out on me now. Thanks!
Does seem a little unusual the fact that you've been overclocking for years. In the longer term you may want to keep an eye on that RAM. Good luck, & thanks.
>> don't know why it's bugging out on me now << because you are running cloqser to it's limits in speed, voltage and temperature
That is, of course, assuming you have good reason to believe it was RAM related in the first place. Perhaps it's a corrupt driver/file. Have you looked into replacing that file with a slightly older/different verions?