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I appear to have a ghost partition that I cannot get rid of.  I use System Commander 9 to multi-boot Windows 2000 (0-0), Windows XP (0-1) and Windows 2003 Server (0-2).  In each system I can see a disk that appears as "Local Disk (X:)" where X is a different drive on each OS. By process of elimination I determined that it had to be partition 1-0, I deleted that ... and it is still there.  I created 4 primary partitions on drive 1, and I still had the ghost drive.  Deleted them again - no change.

History: this machine had been a Windows 2003 Server machine (0-0) when I got it.  I copied 0-0 to 1-0, deleted 0-0, and installed DOS and Windows 2000 into a new 0-0 for utility purposes.  Then I installed Windows XP into 0-1.  Then I copied 1-0 to 0-2 and tried to boot it after modifying boot.ini.  No joy.  I ended up doing a fresh install over 0-2, and got a fresh Win2003 working happily.

There are 4 drives in this system, all SATA:

Drive 0 - 76 GB
Drive 1 - 153 GB
Drive 2 - 76 GB
Drive 3 - 932 GB

I used PQ Magic 8.0 to first shrink the original 0-0, then I used it to copy 0-0 to 1-0.  Interestingly, it doubled the size of the partition on drive 1, so that it took up the same proportion of disk space used.  I thought this strange, but of no consequence that I could see

Unfortunately, the ghost partition does have a consequence with my backup software, causing it to hang up.  Properties says it is size 0 with RAW file system.

Your assistance will be greatly appreciated.
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by:nobus
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if you check the partitions, how does it show?
i suggest using bootit-ng for it :  www.terabyteunlimited.com/       
do not install it on the disk, hit ESc , then select partition work
you can also run fdisk from a bootable floppy to show the partitions...
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I found it.  I was going through the partitions gathering documentation on the problem, when I finally got to the System Commander partition and remembered its SCOUT utility.  I ran SCOUT and got the report summarized below, with this particularly useful bit of information:

   Drive 2 (ATA) - Warning - No boot record found at partition start
     From Windows (#2): 76.692 GB   Total sectors = 160836480 (LBA -9765)
                        Cylinders = 10011   Tracks = 255   Sectors/track = 63
     From controller:   76.692 GB   Total sectors = 160836480
                        Cylinders = 16383   Tracks = 16    Sectors/track = 63
       HD-model: HDS728080PLA380 (firmware PF2OA60A)   s/n:       PFDB30S2UNZYJM
       Supports drive > 137 GB
       Features: power=yes, removable=no, fault-detect=yes, security=yes (0009)
       Host protected area supported & enabled w/48-bit addr. (none used)
   Drive &        --Starting--  ---Ending---  -------Sectors-------  ---Size in GB-- Clust
   Partition  ID  Sec  Hd  Cyl  Sec  Hd  Cyl       First      Total    Total  Unused  size  Volume label
D:  2-0       07    1   1    0   63 254 1023          63  160826652   76.688  FSv3.1    4K  VMWare
F:  2-1     ? 0E    1   0 1022   63 254 1022   160826715          0    0.000   0.000     -  
    2-2       00    0   0    0    0   0    0           0          0        0       -     -  
    2-3       00    0   0    0    0   0    0           0          0        0       -     -  

F: is the ghost partition, but it did not show up on any other diagnostic.  On the assumption that it must be related to D:, I deleted D: and voila! F: is gone too, as shown in a second SCOUT report:

   Drive 2 - Validated
     BIOS Parameters: Sector = 63    Head = 254    Cylinder = 1022
       EBIOS Detected: 76.709 GB  ATA  Total sectors = 160836480
     From controller:   76.709 GB   port: E000
       HD-model: HDS728080PLA380   s/n:       PFDB
       Supports drive > 137 GB
       Features: power=yes, removable=no, fault-detect=yes, security=yes (9)
       Host protected area supported & enabled w/48-bit addr. (none used)
   Drive &        --Starting--  ---Ending---    -----Sectors----  --Size in MB-- Clust
   Partition  ID  Sec  Hd  Cyl  Sec  Hd  Cyl     First     Total   Total  Unused  size  Label
    2-0        0    0   0    0    0   0    0         0         0       0      -
    2-1        0    0   0    0    0   0    0         0         0       0      -
    2-2        0    0   0    0    0   0    0         0         0       0      -
    2-3        0    0   0    0    0   0    0         0         0       0      -

Problem solved!

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Full SCOUT report (System Commander is available from Avanquest.com):


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A. System Commander Files and Data

      1)  SYSCMNDR.SYS file                     found (drive C)
      2)  SYSCMNDR.HLP file (for MutliFat only) found
      3)  SCDOS.SYS file                        found
      4)  SYSIOMGR.SYS file                     found

      5)  Version number:                       9.04
      6)  Serial number:                        911B-0271-N4S1-KUXM-UP5G-1GW5
      7)  Registered name:                      Don Estes

      8)  Debug mode:                           0
      9)  First time:                           no
     10)  Data version:                         5
     11)  Bypass dual boot:                     no
     12)  Drives above 0 ignored:               > 0
     13)  Memory clear:                         no
     14)  Force active partition:               yes
     15)  Active mode:                          FF
     16)  BIOS memory size at boot time:        639 KB
     17)  Resolution type:                      auto
     18)  VUI file:                             VISTABLU.VUI
     19)  Check byte1:                          55
     20)  Check byte2:                          47
     21)  Check byte3:                          1
     22)  C:\SC\SCIN.EXE                        found

     23)  Valid primary partitions - control    id   0  1  2  4  5  6  7  8  9
          0-0   Windows 98SE DOS                0C   .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
          0-1   Windows XP Media Center Editionõ0C  no  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
          0-2   Windows 2003  (Microsoft)       17   .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
          1-0                                   17   .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
          1-1                                   1C   .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
          2-0                                   07   .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
          3-0                                   0C   .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
     24)  Valid extended partitions - control        0  1  2  4  5  6  7  8  9
     25)  Valid MultiFAT partitions - control        0  1  2  4  5  6  7  8  9
          0     Windows 2000                         .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
          1     Windows 98SE DOS                     .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
          (Partitions accessible: al=all, no=none, .=auto, 01-0F=parts 0-3)
     26)  IO.SYS data
          0-0  23-Apr-1999  22:22   222390 bytes  (chksum 21147)


B. Partition Data and Checks
   MBR type:  SC FAT32

   Drive 0 - Validated
     BIOS Parameters: Sector = 63    Head = 254    Cylinder = 1022
       EBIOS Detected: 76.709 GB  ATA  Total sectors = 160836480
     From controller:   76.709 GB   port: E800
       HD-model: HDS728080PLA380   s/n:       PFDB
       Supports drive > 137 GB
       Features: power=yes, removable=no, fault-detect=yes, security=yes (9)
       Host protected area supported & enabled w/48-bit addr. (none used)
   Drive &        --Starting--  ---Ending---    -----Sectors----  --Size in MB-- Clust
   Partition  ID  Sec  Hd  Cyl  Sec  Hd  Cyl     First     Total   Total  Unused  size  Label
   +0-0        C    1   1    0   63 254 1023        63  16771797   8,189   5,084    4K  "WINMULTI"
    0-1        C    1   0 1023   63 254 1023  16771860  33559785  16,386   7,633   16K  "WINDOWSXPMC"
    0-2        7    1   0 1023   63 254 1023  50331645 110495070  53,952 FSv3.1    4K
    0-3        0    0   0    0    0   0    0         0         0       0      -

   Drive 1 - Validated
     BIOS Parameters: Sector = 63    Head = 254    Cylinder = 1022
       EBIOS Detected: 153.394 GB  ATA  Total sectors = 321672960
     From controller:   153.394 GB   port: 0
       HD-model: HDS722516VLSA80   s/n:       VN6D
       Supports drive > 137 GB
       Features: power=yes, removable=no, fault-detect=yes, security=yes (1)
       Host protected area supported & enabled w/48-bit addr. (none used)
   Drive &        --Starting--  ---Ending---    -----Sectors----  --Size in MB-- Clust
   Partition  ID  Sec  Hd  Cyl  Sec  Hd  Cyl     First     Total   Total  Unused  size  Label
    1-0        F    1   0    1   63 254 1023     16065 321653430 157,057      -
      log-1    7    1   1    1   63 254 1023        63 321653367 157,057 FSv3.1   64K
    1-1        0    0   0    0    0   0    0         0         0       0      -
    1-2        0    0   0    0    0   0    0         0         0       0      -
    1-3        0    0   0    0    0   0    0         0         0       0      -

   Drive 2 - Validated
     BIOS Parameters: Sector = 63    Head = 254    Cylinder = 1022
       EBIOS Detected: 76.709 GB  ATA  Total sectors = 160836480
     From controller:   76.709 GB   port: E000
       HD-model: HDS728080PLA380   s/n:       PFDB
       Supports drive > 137 GB
       Features: power=yes, removable=no, fault-detect=yes, security=yes (9)
       Host protected area supported & enabled w/48-bit addr. (none used)
   Drive &        --Starting--  ---Ending---    -----Sectors----  --Size in MB-- Clust
   Partition  ID  Sec  Hd  Cyl  Sec  Hd  Cyl     First     Total   Total  Unused  size  Label
    2-0        0    0   0    0    0   0    0         0         0       0      -
    2-1        0    0   0    0    0   0    0         0         0       0      -
    2-2        0    0   0    0    0   0    0         0         0       0      -
    2-3        0    0   0    0    0   0    0         0         0       0      -

   Drive 3 - Validated
     BIOS Parameters: Sector = 63    Head = 254    Cylinder = 1022
       EBIOS Detected: 931.525 GB  ATA  Total sectors = 1953525168
     From controller:   931.525 GB   port: 0
       HD-model: ST31000340AS   s/n:          
       Supports drive > 137 GB
       Features: power=yes, removable=no, fault-detect=yes, security=yes (9)
       Host protected area supported & enabled w/48-bit addr. (none used)
   Drive &        --Starting--  ---Ending---    -----Sectors----  --Size in MB-- Clust
   Partition  ID  Sec  Hd  Cyl  Sec  Hd  Cyl     First     Total   Total  Unused  size  Label
    3-0        7    1   1    0   63 254 1022        63  > 999 GB
    3-1        0    0   0    0    0   0    0         0         0       0      -
    3-2        0    0   0    0    0   0    0         0         0       0      -
    3-3        0    0   0    0    0   0    0         0         0       0      -

     Partition error codes following values (if any):
         w = warning       (orange in SCIN display)
         m = major warning (magenta in SCIN display)
         r = real problem  (red in SCIN display)
     Ignore all partitions with id 5 (invisible extended partitions)
     '+' indicates bootable/active flag set on this partition

C. Boot Record Checks (FAT/FAT32/NTFS)

   Drive: 0   Partition: 0   bootable: 80   Id:  C   FAT32
   System Commander resides in this partition.
      1)  Sectors per cluster (power of 2)                    8  
      2)  Bytes per sector (should be 512)                    512  
      3)  Number of FATs (always 2)                           2  
      4)  Start of root directory                             13  
      5)  Media descriptor byte (never below F0h)             F8  
      6)  Sectors per track (1 to 63 valid)                   63  
      7)  Total sectors from partition entry                  16771797
      8)  Total sectors from boot (should match partition)    16771797  
      9)  File system ID                                      "FAT32   "
     10)  Volume Label from the boot sector                   "WINMULTI"
     11)  File to launch on boot                              "IO.SYS"

   Drive: 0   Partition: 1   bootable:  0   Id:  C   FAT32
      1)  Sectors per cluster (power of 2)                    32  
      2)  Bytes per sector (should be 512)                    512  
      3)  Number of FATs (always 2)                           2  
      4)  Start of root directory                             2  
      5)  Media descriptor byte (never below F0h)             F8  
      6)  Sectors per track (1 to 63 valid)                   63  
      7)  Total sectors from partition entry                  33559785
      8)  Total sectors from boot (should match partition)    33559785  
      9)  File system ID                                      "FAT32   "
     10)  Volume Label from the boot sector                   "WINDOWSXPMC"
     11)  File to launch on boot                              "NTLDR"

   Drive: 0   Partition: 2   bootable:  0   Id:  7   NTFS
      1)  Sectors per cluster (power of 2)                    8  
      2)  Bytes per sector (should be 512)                    512  
      3)  Total sectors from partition entry                  110495070
      4)  Total sectors from boot record                      110495069  
      5)  File system ID                                      "NTFS    "
      6)  File to launch on boot                              "NTLDR"

   Drive: 3   Partition: 0   bootable:  0   Id:  7   NTFS
      1)  Sectors per cluster (power of 2)                    128  
      2)  Bytes per sector (should be 512)                    512  
      3)  Total sectors from partition entry                  1953520002
      4)  Total sectors from boot record                      1953520001  
      5)  File system ID                                      "NTFS    "
      6)  File to launch on boot                              "NTLDR"


D. Scan information

      1)  Total conventional memory:            640 KB
      2)  Hard disk interrupt location:         F000:54E0
      3)  EIDE software (not in BIOS):          none detected


E. Environment

      1)  Compression driver loaded:            no
      2)  Compression on drive C:               no
      3)  BIOS: American Megatrends              2-Feb-2005
          PnP BIOS Specification:               1.0
          PnP BIOS Boot Specification:          Implemented
              BIOS Boot order:                  HD, CDROM, DSKT
      4)  Active DOS version:                   7.10
      5)  PCMCIA detector:                      no
      6)  System RAM:                           3310 MB (E820)
      7)  Video VESA version:                   3.0
      8)  Video Card Manufacturer:              Intel Corporation              
      9)  Video Card Name:                      Intel(r)915G/915GV/910GL Graphic
     10)  Video Card Version:                   Hardware Version 0.0            
     11)  Video Max Resolution:                 1024 x 768 (EDID A5h, 4Bh)
     12)  VESA card 256-color support           (without Windows)
            Mode  13Ch (A=7, B=0, 64 KB)        1920x1440  
            Mode  13Ah (A=7, B=0, 64 KB)        1600x1200  
            Mode  107h (A=7, B=0, 64 KB)        1280x1024  
            Mode  105h (A=7, B=0, 64 KB)        1024x768  
            Mode  101h (A=7, B=0, 64 KB)        640x480  
            Mode  103h (A=7, B=0, 64 KB)        800x600  


F. CONFIG.SYS file

   [menu]
   menuitem=CD, Start computer with CD-ROM support.
   menuitem=NOCD, Start computer without CD-ROM support.
   menuitem=HELP, View the Help file.
   menudefault=CD,30
   menucolor=7,0
   
   [CD]
   device=C:\WIN98\himem.sys /testmem:off
   device=oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd001
   device=btdosm.sys
   device=flashpt.sys
   device=btcdrom.sys /D:mscd001
   rem device=aspi2dos.sys
   rem device=aspi8dos.sys
   rem device=aspi4dos.sys
   rem device=aspi8u2.sys
   rem device=aspicd.sys /D:mscd001
   
   [NOCD]
   device=C:\WIN98\himem.sys /testmem:off
   
   [HELP]
   device=C:\WIN98\himem.sys /testmem:off
   DEVICE=C:\WIN98\setver.exe
   
   [COMMON]
   files=40
   buffers=40
   dos=high,umb
   devicehigh=C:\WIN98\ramdrive.sys /E 2048
   lastdrive=z
   

G. OS Wizard Log

   
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                        System Commander Version 9.01
                        Installed          24- 2-2008   15:08
                        Registered Name    Don Estes, Don Estes & Assoc
                        Serial Number:     911B-0271-N4S1-KUXM-UP5G-1GW5
                        Install            Completed successfully
   ____________________________________________________________________________
   
   ____________________________________________________________________________
                        System Commander Version 9.04
                        Installed          24- 2-2008   17:17
                        Registered Name    Don Estes, Don Estes & Assoc
                        Serial Number:     911B-0271-N4S1-KUXM-UP5G-1GW5
                        Install            Completed successfully
   ____________________________________________________________________________
   
   __________________________________________________________________________
   24-Feb-2008  6:01pm  OS WIZARD
   
      Disk 0:   BIOS Sect 63  Heads 255  Cyl 10011
        Type Id  Sect Head Cylndr Boot Fmtd  LgcStart      Size
        Prim  C    1     1      0    1    1        63  50315517 (24568 MB)  <--
        Free  0    1     0   3132    0    1  50315580  110511135 (53960 MB)
      Disk 1:   BIOS Sect 63  Heads 255  Cyl 20023
        Type Id  Sect Head Cylndr Boot Fmtd  LgcStart      Size
        Prim  7    1     1      0    0    1        63  187430292 (91518 MB)
        Prim  C    1     0  11667    0    1  187430355  67119570 (32773 MB)
        Free  0    1     0  15845    0    1  254549925  67119570 (32773 MB)
      Disk 2:   BIOS Sect 63  Heads 255  Cyl 10011
        Type Id  Sect Head Cylndr Boot Fmtd  LgcStart      Size
        Prim  7    1     1      0    0    1        63  160826652 (78528 MB)
        Prim  E    1     0  10011    0    0  160826715         0 (0 MB)
      Disk 3:   BIOS Sect 63  Heads 255  Cyl 121601
        Type Id  Sect Head Cylndr Boot Fmtd  LgcStart      Size
        Prim  C    1     1      0    0    0        63  1953520002 (953867 MB)
        Free  0    1     0  56065    0    1  900684225  1052835840 (514080 MB)
      ACTION User-Resize   (E1:16773120  E2:0)
      *** Action Success
   
      Disk 0:   BIOS Sect 63  Heads 255  Cyl 10011
        Type Id  Sect Head Cylndr Boot Fmtd  LgcStart      Size
        Prim  C    1     1      0    1    1        63  16771797 (8189 MB)
        Free  0    1     0   1044    0    1  16771860  144054855 (70339 MB)  <--
      Disk 1:   BIOS Sect 63  Heads 255  Cyl 20023
        Type Id  Sect Head Cylndr Boot Fmtd  LgcStart      Size
        Prim  7    1     1      0    0    1        63  187430292 (91518 MB)
        Prim  C    1     0  11667    0    1  187430355  67119570 (32773 MB)
        Free  0    1     0  15845    0    1  254549925  67119570 (32773 MB)
      Disk 2:   BIOS Sect 63  Heads 255  Cyl 10011
        Type Id  Sect Head Cylndr Boot Fmtd  LgcStart      Size
        Prim  7    1     1      0    0    1        63  160826652 (78528 MB)
        Prim  E    1     0  10011    0    0  160826715         0 (0 MB)
      Disk 3:   BIOS Sect 63  Heads 255  Cyl 121601
        Type Id  Sect Head Cylndr Boot Fmtd  LgcStart      Size
        Prim  C    1     1      0    0    0        63  1953520002 (953867 MB)
        Free  0    1     0  56065    0    1  900684225  1052835840 (514080 MB)
      ACTION User-Create   (E1:33554432  E2:1)
      *** Action Success
   


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