text searching a field like google

i want to be able to search an ntext field similar to the way search engines work.  maybe a stored procedure that would take as a parameter a search string and return a select statement of those that matched

example:  a search for 'red orange apple'  --> would match on a ntext field with the phrase "the recipe calls for a red apple, but you could substitute an orange"

ideally it would also handle OR and quotes as well  (just like google)

im sure this has been done before.  are there some examples already written?
spathiphylumAsked:
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spathiphylumAuthor Commented:
also this code seems to cut off the last character of the last word.  simple fix, no?
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howyueCommented:
for ur red apple orange case u can:

SELECT 'the recipe calls for a red apple, but you could substitute an orange' COL1 INTO #Temp

SELECT * FROM #Temp
WHERE CONVERT(VARCHAR(MAX), COL1) LIKE REPLACE('%Red Apple Orange%', ' ', '%')
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spathiphylumAuthor Commented:
the words aren't necessarily in the same order  (i.e. i would want a search for 'red apple orange' to return the same results as 'red orange apple'  or 'orange apple red') the same way most search engines work i think.   would your solution solve that?
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howyueCommented:
refer to this thread
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Microsoft/Development/MS-SQL-Server/Q_21501493.html

attached are my example, hope that is helpful..
anyway this is the first time i'm such search function too ...
CREATE TABLE CT (
	ID INT IDENTITY(1,1) PRIMARY KEY,
	COL1 NTEXT
)
 
INSERT INTO CT
SELECT 'the recipe calls for a red apple, but you could substitute an orange'
 
EXEC sp_fulltext_database 'enable'
EXEC sp_fulltext_catalog 'test_ct_catalog', 'create'
EXEC sp_fulltext_table 'CT', 'create', 'test_ct_catalog', 'PK__CT__41B8C09B'
EXEC sp_fulltext_column CT, COL1, 'add'
EXEC sp_fulltext_catalog 'test_ct_catalog', 'start_full'
 
SELECT * FROM CT 
WHERE CONTAINS(Col1, ' "an" OR "the" OR "apple" ')

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howyueCommented:
i think this would be exactly what u wan:
SELECT *
FROM CT
WHERE FREETEXT(Col1, 'orange apple red')
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spathiphylumAuthor Commented:
this is the error i get

Msg 7653, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
'PK__CT__41B8C09B' is not a valid index to enforce a full-text search key. A full-text search key must be a unique, non-nullable, single-column index which is not offline, is not defined on a non-deterministic or imprecise nonpersisted computed column, and has maximum size of 900 bytes. Choose another index for the full-text key.

also, this won't deal with quotes will it?
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howyueCommented:
oh PK__CT__41B8C09B is my primary key name for table CT.
when u create the testing table at ur computer, it would gives u a different name if u don specify the name.
do check what is the primary key name for ur table CT and replace it:
EXEC sp_fulltext_table 'CT', 'create', 'test_ct_catalog', 'YourPrimaryKeyName'
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spathiphylumAuthor Commented:
great.  it selects the right row, but it also selects the same row when i choose this:

SELECT * FROM CT WHERE FREETEXT(Col1, 'orange red blue')

even though 'blue' does not exist in the text.  it seems like it's doing an OR but the behavior of most search engines is to use AND

also it doesnt seem like it understands quotes bc this also returns the same result  

SELECT * FROM CT WHERE FREETEXT(Col1, 'blah "red raddish"')

even though the phrase "red raddish" doesnt exist in the text

ideas?

thanks
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howyueCommented:
the logic seems very fuzzy ..
u would expect the query to search for string that contains all 3 words of 'orange', 'red' & 'blue' ?
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spathiphylumAuthor Commented:
thats how most search engines work, right?  if you google "sql server 2005" you get fewer results than if you google just "server"  suggesting the more terms you add the more specific you want it.
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howyueCommented:
ur question is more to the "logically how should i do it" than "technically how do i do it".. anyway if u wan the apply the method that is using "AND" word and returns result with all ur input keywords mayb u can try the following loop to generete the SQL, in whcih if u wish to implement it u wil hv to do it with a dynamic SQL.
DECLARE @Str VARCHAR(200)
DECLARE @Where VARCHAR(MAX)
DECLARE @EndPos INT
SET @Str = 'the recipe calls for a red apple, but you could substitute an orange'
WHILE NOT LEN(@Str) = 0 BEGIN
	SET @EndPos = CHARINDEX(' ', @Str)
	IF @EndPos = 0 SET @EndPos = LEN(@Str)
	SELECT @Where = ISNULL(@Where + ' AND ', 'WHERE ') + 'COLUMNNAME LIKE ''%' + SUBSTRING(@Str, 0, @EndPos) + '%''' + CHAR(13)
	SELECT @Str = LTRIM(SUBSTRING(@Str, @EndPos + 1, LEN(@Str)))
END
 
PRINT @Where

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spathiphylumAuthor Commented:
so is there no facility to handle quotes and general boolean logic like Google?  surely this has been done before
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buri8128Commented:
There is a CLR for google syntax questions in a article from sqlservercentral http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Full-Text+Search+(2008)/64248/
I have just read not used it yet. I have a project where I might use it though.
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