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Have windows xp And Photoshop cs3. I would like to be able to search photoshop for psd format pictures, for example (Pam Munday) and get only pictures with Pam Munday in them. Currently this search would give results such as (Pam Smith-Roger Munday).
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by:David Brugge
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Using Adobe Bridge CS3 v2.1.1.9 I build a folder on my desktop and filled it with copies of PSD files. I then named the files:
       Pam Munday
       Pam Munday1
       Pam Munday 2
       Pam Munday-3
       Pam Munda
       Pam Mundayson
       Pam Smith and Roger Munday (one file name)
and Pam Smith-Roger Munday

I then used the Find function with the following search criteria:

Look In: Search Test folder
Filename  _contains_   Pam Munday +
Document type   _ exists_
Match   _if all criteria are met_

I got the following results:

       Pam Munday 2
       Pam Munday-3
       Pam Munday
       Pam Munday1
and Pam Mundayson

I did not get:
       Pam Munda
       Pam Smith-Roger Munday
  or Pam Smith and Roger Munday

Are you doing your search in a different way?
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by:nvslater
ID: 21871396
I have never tried your search meathod. I am trying now.
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by:David Brugge
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You are familiar with the Bridge Find dialog box that has the drop down box that says:
contains, does not contain, starts with, ends with, equals, does not equal
and so forth? Right?
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by:nvslater
ID: 21871497
I did not realize there were so many options.
 I have 10.000 pictures on an external hard drive. When I search, I search a File I made Called "Photoshop Search" which includes all pictures on that external hard drive.
  So in the bridge find dialogue box
 LOOK IN = Photoshop Search
 Criteria
   First Box = Filename
   Second Box = Contains
    Third Box = Pam Munday +
 Results
      Match = Ifall criteria are met
              Include all Subfolders is checked
No results  
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by:nvslater
ID: 21871576
Let me change the person's name to Pam Kellogg
 Filename>contains>pam
 Filename>contains>kellogg

results = 172 but only 129 have the person pam kellogg
      others are such as (pam munday-terry kellogg)    

  Iwish I knew how to search better.    
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by:David Brugge
ID: 21871591
What kind of file is this and what operating system are you using?
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by:nvslater
ID: 21871597
Psd and windows xp pro
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by:David Brugge
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>I search a File I made Called "Photoshop Search" which includes all pictures on that external hard drive.

I assume that this is a database. (I remember your last question trying to find a solution for this problem)

What format is the database, and what information is in it?
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by:nvslater
ID: 21871639
The external hard drive has only Photoshop CS3 (the complete program) on it.
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by:nvslater
ID: 21871673
D_Brugge:Using Adobe Bridge CS3 v2.1.1.9 I build a folder on my desktop and filled it with copies of PSD files. I then named the files:
       Pam Munday
       Pam Munday1
       Pam Munday 2
       Pam Munday-3
       Pam Munda
       Pam Mundayson
       Pam Smith and Roger Munday (one file name)
and Pam Smith-Roger Munday

I then used the Find function with the following search criteria:

Look In: Search Test folder
Filename  _contains_   Pam Munday +
Document type   _ exists_
Match   _if all criteria are met_

I got the following results:

       Pam Munday 2
       Pam Munday-3
       Pam Munday
       Pam Munday1
and Pam Mundayson

I did not get:
       Pam Munda
       Pam Smith-Roger Munday
  or Pam Smith and Roger Munday

Are you doing your search in a different way?

 I don't understand the function of parts of your search criteria
      1.   Pam_Munday +
      2.  Document type_exist_  
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by:David Brugge
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You say that you search a file that you made with the 10.000 pictures on it. Is this a file that has the NAMES of all 10,000 pictures? Or is it a PSD file that has THUMBNAILS of all 10,000 pictures? Or is it something else?
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by:nvslater
ID: 21871692
If I use a couple more lines with does not contain>munday
                                                   Does Not contain>hill
  I get 122 of Pam Kellogg And only 2 wrong pictures    
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by:nvslater
ID: 21871699
PSD file that shows the thumbnails in bridge
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David Brugge earned 500 total points
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Opps! I missed this post:

> Let me change the person's name to Pam Kellogg
>  Filename>contains>pam
>  Filename>contains>kellogg

> results = 172 but only 129 have the person pam kellogg
>       others are such as (pam munday-terry kellogg)    

>   Iwish I knew how to search better.

Searching for a filename that contains pam will give you ALL filenames that have pam including Pam Munday-Terry Kellogg
and

Searching for a filename that contains kellogg will give you ALL filenames that have kellogg including Pam Munday-Terry Kellogg

HOWEVER, searching for a file that contains Pam Kellogg will ONLY find files with Pam Kellogg and not Pam Munday.

HOWEVER it must be Pam(space)Kellogg and not Pam(space)(space)Kellogg or Pam G. Kellogg. or it will not find the file.

ALSO, you have discovered the "Does Not Contain" selector that is great for narrowing down your search.  That way, if you have a file names Pam Kellogg and a file named Pam G. Kellogg, you could search for contains Pam + contains Kellogg + does not contain (whatever else shows up)

It can be a lot of work figuring out how to narrow down your search, but I think that you understand the way the search operates now.

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by:nvslater
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I have tried to figure this out for a long time. I thank you so much for your help. If there is more information on how to use bridge search, I would really like to read it. Again thank you.
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by:David Brugge
ID: 21871772
I know that you have been struggling with this for some time. I saw your question posted before, but I didn't understand exactly what it was that you were trying to do.

Here is a video that Adobe made that gives and overview of searching in bridge. I mostly covers files that the user has added ratings and keywords too (way to much of a task for 10,000 files I should think) but it gives good tips on searching the metadata, etc.

http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/video_workshop/?id=vid0096

Best of luck to you,

David B.
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