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Msg Size greater than allowed by Remote Host

I'm having an issue sending attachments from our site to external sites via Exchange 2003.

One of our executives recently told me he's trying to send an email that's just barely over the 10MB send/receive limit.  To fix the problem, I allowed his account to send emails up to 15MB in size, but he still wasn't able to.  So I reset his limit back to the store default, and changed the default level up to 15MB.  Still no luck.  The message he got back read, "Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients."  It goes on to say, "This message is larger than the current system limit or the recipient's mailbox is full."  At the end of it all, it says, "Msg Size greater than allowed by Remote Host."

The person on the other end says he can receive attachments of any size.  But to test this, I sent an email to my gmail account with a 12MB attachment.  As soon as it left my inbox, I got a reply back with the same Delivery Status Notification (Failure) message our executive was seeing.  According to gmail, they can accept emails up to 20MB in size.  Interestingly enough, I can send that same 12MB file between Exchange 2003 servers on our internal network.  Sending these emails externally results in a bounceback at the same time it gets sent.

So right now, in Message Delivery properties, there's no send/receive limit.  On the SMTP connector, there's no limit set.  On the SonicWall firewally, I don't see anything that would prevent me from sending off larger SMTP messages.  And it definitely doesn't appear to be on the other end.

So my question is, is there something I've overlooked in Exchange or Outlook that would cause this to not be sent?  Is anyone familiar with SonicWall, and know if there's somewhere on there I might look?  I restarted the SMTP and Information Store on the second Exchange server (not fully in production), but it still bounced back.

Any information anyone has would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!
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Hi,
"This message is larger than the current system limit or the recipient's mailbox is full ' - See it is going out of your system.  So I would assume no issues with your setup. As far as I know in GMAIL the limit is 10MB
Still ...
  • Are you using a ISP for sending/receiving mail (smarthost), if yes then check with them
  • Database Properties, check the limits there (oh you did it already)

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Thanks for the reply!

According to Gmail, "With Gmail, you can send and receive messages up to 20 megabytes (MB) in size."  That's on their Help page...

It definitely doesn't look like it's going anywhere outside of our system is the thing.  It's the part that says "This message is larger than the current system limit" that has me concerned.  It seems like for some reason and some-where, Exchange is holding on to the previous message size limit, at least for external recipients.  That's what's confusing me...
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Hi Craig,
Ok do one thing, send a mail to external ID and send me the Message tracking log.
If it successfully sends out to SmartHost, then I would check smarthost, could be issue there.
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Hi Craig,
As well as checking the limit on the SMTP connector, have you also checked:

- Exchange System Manager
- Global Settings
- Right click "Message Delivery" and select Properties
- Check on the "Defaults" tab that there are no limits there

and also

- Exchange System Manager
- Administrative Groups
- First Administrative Group
- Servers
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- First Storage Group
- Right click "Mailbox Store" and select properties
- Check the "Limits" tab to make sure there are no limits set there either

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Thanks again for your prompt replies, guys!

In the Message Delivery properties, there are no limits set.  Any email of any size should be deliverable.
In the Mailbox Store properties, limits are turned off for all mailboxes.  Those were the first two things I'd made sure were changed in order to allow the executive to email this off in the first place.

So I've checked the Message tracking log and pulled up one of the large emails I'd tried to send yesterday.  All of the following event times are 7/16/2008 15:44
SMTP: Store Driver: Message Submitted from Store
SMTP: Message Submitted to Advanced Queuing
SMTP: Started Message Submission to Advanced Queue
SMTP: Message Submitted to Categorizer
SMTP: Message Categorized and Queued forRouting
SMTP: Message Routed and Queued for Remote Delivery
SMTP: Started Outbound Transfer of Message
SMTP: Non-Delivery Report (NDR) Generated
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congrats....haha a typical issue in networks, so ultimately it was nothing in Exchange as discussed earlier and mails were actually going out !
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