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Up till now remote users have been logging on to the SBS over the internet using remote desktop for admin. This is incorrect, but it works for 2 users!
Now I need to add more concurrent users. You can't run SBS 2003 as a terminal server, so I have added a server loaded with Server 2003, configured it as a terminal server, and activated the terminal server CALs. Do I need to remove the terminal services functions from the SBS?
If I understand correctly, incoming remote users now need to look at the terminal server and not the SBS to log on. But the applications and documents are still on the SBS. I can point users to the applications by mapping the folder on the SBS to their desktop on the terminal server, but how do I point the users to documents and folders on their SBS desktops?
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Recommend reinstall the application on the TS instead of running across networks.
There are about 10 local and up to 4 remote users on the SBS, with no Exchange,
and only the one accounting package, so the machine is hardly overloaded. I'm not keen to put the application on the Terminal Server because it isn't as good a machine as the SBS.
Would using a direct network link between the SBS and the TS, using the spare network port on both machines, and a separate subnet, make much difference to the overall performance of the application? Even as it is set up now I think the internet connection is much slower than the network connection between the SBS and the TS.
Absolutely not! That would be a horrible way to set things up. If your SBS machine is good, then just install Virtual Server on it and run your TS virtually on the same machine. See http://sbsurl.com/vs for instructions.
Then you need to follow the documentation to install TS: http://sbsurl.com/sbstss
You will need separate Terminal Server CALs for your remote users, so be sure to get those.
I am curious about your configuration though...
"SBS, with no Exchange"
Why no Exchange? That's at the heart of SBS, and if you don't want Exchange then why are you running SBS in the first place? Because you could otherwise use a standard Server 2003 for your needs.
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"Even as it is set up now I think the internet connection is much slower than the network connection between the SBS and the TS" - Of course internet connection is slower. Internal network should give you somewhere like 100Mb (could be 1Gb = 1000Mb depending on your switch) while internet is 8Mb or 16Mb at most (normal broadband).
The two network cards should be setup as one pointing to WAN and one to LAN. Follow this Microsoft link to setup your two NICs in your SBS server.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/825763
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I do hope I'm not getting this all wrong. I am dismayed at the costs of setting up remote user access for a couple of users wanting to work on their spreadsheets at home, using terminal services. You have to purchase 5 TS CALs, 5 Server CALs AND 5 Office Standard licences, even if the users have Office already installed on their machines. This is now getting very expensive.
As far as Remote Web Workplace is concerned, the implication is that a person who normally works in the office on a desktop now wants to do some work at home on their home PC, so they effectively log into their work PC. In this case, the users have laptops and take their "work PC's" with them, or they work in a different town entirely, and don't have a "work PC" at all. So how do they log into a "work PC" if there aren't any.
I'm sorry if these are simple questions, but I have spent hours on the internet looking for this stuff, but I just don't get to the answers. Like Billy's suggestion to think of TS as a big PC.
terminal server is used if you need to run applications like payroll or databases., Spreadsheet files can just be copied up or down when needed (web folders)






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Please see http://sbsurl.com/remote for an overview of different remote access options with SBS.
To make sure that the VPN is properly configured see http://sbsurl.com/vpn (ignore the last part about using RDP... that's not required, nor is it necessary). Instead, have the laptop users log into the RWW main menu and download the SBS Connection Manager which will be properly configured to establish their VPN connection.
You absolutely DON'T need a Terminal Server for these users.
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"Jeff, I think I have linked the TS to the domain properly, because if I look in Terminal Services Manager, it shows me a user is logged into a session on the TS."
The fact that you see it in Terminal Services Manager isn't what I was referring to. Did you follow the steps outlined in http://sbsurl.com/sbstss ? Because what I was referring to was whether or not the TS showed up on the RWW Main Menu.
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RWW is not really an option because there aren't any free desktops during the day to act as the "host".
Virtual server cannot be bought separately anymore - it is now part of Server.
The best solution appears to be Terminal Services.
The next issue was which version of Office to buy. I will need a Volume Licence Key with a minimum of 5 licences. Not very economical when only 2 users need "Excel" - the others will only be using the accounting package, but there you are.
Why is this all so difficult? Because it keeps everyone busy.






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This is why I suggested that you add a couple of desktop PC's in the office for these folks. It would certainly be less expensive than implementing a Terminal Server.
"Virtual server cannot be bought separately anymore - it is now part of Server. "
Not true. Hyper-V is part of Server 2008, but you can certainly download and install Microsoft Virtual Server 2005 R2 for FREE. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/virtualserver/
"The best solution appears to be Terminal Services."
I disagree, based on the two things I stated above.
"The next issue was which version of Office to buy. I will need a Volume Licence Key with a minimum of 5 licences. Not very economical when only 2 users need "Excel" - the others will only be using the accounting package, but there you are."
If that's all they need, then you can buy new desktop machines that include Office 2007 BASIC OEM for less than what a single volume license of Office costs.
Based on the above, I really don't understand why you feel as though this is so difficult to accomplish, and why you chose to give a grade of "B" for my answer.
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Windows Server 2003 was based on Windows XP and was released in four editions: Web, Standard, Enterprise and Datacenter. It also had derivative versions for clusters, storage and Microsoft’s Small Business Server. Important upgrades included integrating Internet Information Services (IIS), improvements to Active Directory (AD) and Group Policy (GP), and the migration to Automated System Recovery (ASR).