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Why do we need Oracle 10g Forms to be hooked up to Oracle 11i application server.

Hi,
I have doubt and I thought of getting a clarification from you guys.
The problem is as follows:

My company earlier used to maintain records for display and storage purpose using Oracle portal. But now it seems Oracle support to Oracle Portal is being limited. Hence my company asked our team to develop a strategy to face problems that would arise.

My manager said we will upgrade the entire system using Oracle 10g forms (i,e., using Oracle 10g database) and he says once the system is upgraded by using Oracle Forms and Oracle 10g database we shall hook up these forms to Oracle 11i Application server.

Now my question  are :
1. Why to upgrade the system by using Oracle 10g forms when we have Oracle 11i apps server with us which already have built in forms ( as per my understanding) that can be used for this purpose?
2. When database is on Oracle 10g Server and Forms are also on 10g Server, how he will hook up the forms to Oracle 11i Apps Server?
3.Why he is not going on with 10g server alone and why is he bringing 11i apps server into picture?

It would be very helpful if you can explain me in detail and also rpovide me with relavent links where I can find the materil on the net. Please I need the explanation on this because I am a starter and I am not able to understand what my manager is exactly going to do.

Hope to get a reply from you soon.
Thanks,
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Hi Friends,
Thank you for your responses.  Your responses have enlightened me to some extent and at the same time I fear I am confusing you with my terms and my knowledge.
I agree with markgeer that the terminology used by Oracle is some what confusing.

After doign some research work I came to know a few points on my current project and want to share them with you and ask you a few more questions:

1.The project I am currently assigned to is a legacy system.
2. Earlier they developed the entire project using Oracle Portal 3.0.9 and Oracle Discoverer 4.0 versions.
3. Now it seems Oracle has given a desupport notice for the above said technologies and hence we need to plan  for Oracle 10g AS.
4.As per my knowledge in my company we have Oracle9i Server, Oracle10g Server and Oracle Application Server 11.
5. As per my knowledge we have now migrated the data to Oracle 9i, hence Oracle 9i Server works as our database. We are developing forms using Oracle Forms 10g developer Suite. After these forms are developed my manager says that thse forms will be hooked up to Oracle Application Server 11.

Now my questions are as follows:
1. Why is my manager not preferring to use Oracle Portal in Oracle 10g version?
2. Is Oracle 10g version a recent version than Oracle Application Server 11( E-business suite)?
3.Am my correct in my guess work saying that data base will be on Oracle 9i Server?
4. Where do my forms reside (on Oracle 10g server or some where else)?
5.What is ment by hooking up the forms to Oracle Application Server 11 (E-Business Suite)?
6.If at all the forms developed ( by using Oracle 10g forms developer suite) reside on Oracle Application Server 11 (E-business suite--server) then how will these forms interact to the data base on Oracle 9i Server ?
7. What might be my manager idea for not using the Oracle Application Server 11(E-business Suite) and opting for developing forms using Oracle 10g developer suite?

I am also here with forwarding you  attachment which might help you in giving explanation to my problem and clarify my doubts. It would be helpful if you can provide me with inline comments to each of my question asked. Hope you people here will help me out in understanding the business going on here without the knowledge of which I might be lacking some fundamentals even if I complete my work on this project.
Thanks,
vkg_26
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Hi,
I am confused.
markgeer in his previos post in explanation of point 5 said "Oracle Application Server 11 and E-Business Suite are two different products"   and at the same time schwertner said that "Oracle Application Server 11 doesn't exist". Can any one of you clarify is Oracle Application Server 11 exists or not?
When I googled I found both of them.Can you calrify?
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I personally felt I have to know much more about Oracle releases, versions  and their features. Both the people tried to help me to a great extent with their vast knowledge in this domain. I request them to post some more material or share some more knowledge in this same post About Oracle 10g and its intergeation to Oracle E-Business Suite. Thanks for their help.
Your grading comment makes it look like you still have some confusion regarding the Oracle products.  You mentioned "E-Business Suite" again in that comment, but I don't think that is applicable to your situation.  Oracle's E-Business Suite is their very expensive full suite of developed applications (similar to the big SAP product suite) that are ready to use to run a mid-size to large business.  This suite of software includes: an Oracle database, Oracle Forms, Oracle Reports, JDeveloper,  the Oracle Application Server and some other components.

But the Oracle Application Server is also avaliable as a separate web server product to run (web-enabled) Oracle Forms and Reports, JDeveloper screens, etc. to support custom applications, like you apparently have.
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Hi,
Yes I still do have some confusion but will try to come out of it and hence in the comment I have asked you people here to post about the various products information and more about Oracle 10g, Oracle E Business Suite, Oracle Application Server.....I will be happy and it will make me enlighten in this area if you can continue this post without any hesitation. I thought I am confusing you guys and asking you more help and being a burden on you.
Thanks a lot.
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No, you aren't likely to get more comments posted to this question because it is now "closed", and schwertner and I have provided you a lot of information here about the various Oracle products and versions.
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Yes, I completely agree with you. I shall do some home work to improve my understanding and sall get back to you guys if I need anything more by posting a new questions. I owe a lot regarding your help in this aspect.
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