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cut/paste doesnt reset file security permissions

Posted on 2008-10-06
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when my user copies a file from one secured folder to another secured folder,  the file security permissions are reset (inherited) and the people that have access to the new folder can view the copied file..

but when they cut/paste the file from one secured folder to another secured folder,  the file security permissions are not reset (inherited) and the people that have access to the new folder can not view the moved file..

both copy and cut work from a domain admin ID.. but only copy works from a domain user that has full control over both folders..

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If a new copy of the file is created then the permissions are always inherited from the new parent.

If you cut/paste a file from one folder to another folder on the same partition then no new file is created - the pointers in the file table that say which folder the file is in are simply updated - so permissions are not changed.

If you cut/paste a file from one folder to another folder on a different partition then a new file must be created - so the new file inherits the properties of the new folder.
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See this, it pretty much just supports what KCTS already mentioned:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/310316
http://www.tech-faq.com/ntfs-permissions-copy-move.shtml 
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Aw - come on, I just explained all that :-)
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Yeah, as much as I would like the points, KCTS did answer it.  I just added some supporting docs.  
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Thanks both,
Sorry, I don't know how to change the point split after its been entered..
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I would also be careful with that registry hack as this only affects the machines you modify it on.  So your machine will work, but all the other machines will need to be modified as well.  You might end up with a security issue later on after new machine show up or you use restore points, rebuild, etc.
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Click the Request attention link on the original question and ask for the question to be re-opened so you can split.
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I have requested that the question is re-opened so that you can close it properly - its only right to take the time to allocate the points correctly after experts have taken the time to answer your question ;-)
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do you both agree to a 50/50 split?
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Seems fair ;-)
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Sounds fair to me.
(:
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Thanks, that fixed it..

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer  

Value name: MoveSecurityAttributes
Data type: DWORD
Value data: 0
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