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File and printer sharing - which ports most dangerous?

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File and prnter sharing under XP-pro covers 4 ports:
tcp 139
tcp 445
udp 137
udp 138

I already have tcp 445 open for a certain reason.  But now I need to open at least 1 other so that my Norman antivirus "Ndesk.exe" program on my server can function properly.
Norman support told me to open 1 of the other 3.  But they could not tell me which  2 of these 3 ports it would be best to keep closed for security reasons.

Which 2 should I keep closed??
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by:DavidESL
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I wouldn't open UDP 137 it's susceptible to DOS attacks will take out your WINS service if that service is running on the same machine

also look at this

http://www.iss.net/security_center/advice/Exploits/Ports/139/default.htm
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Sorry I forgot to ask, are you talking about opening theses ports to the internet?
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I don't think I have a WINS service running.  But how can I confirm that?
If it is not running, could I then activate udp 137?
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by:Alistair7
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Under advanced TCP/ip properties, under the WINS tab, I see:
An empty window under WINS addresses in order of preference.
Further down "aktivate LMHosts" is ticked.
NIETBIOS properties is set to "Standard"
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Only my internal network. Not open to the internet.
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by:DavidESL
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Sorry I re-read your original question this is justa desktop PC right? I doubt you have WINS running
however UDP 137 is a port that is probed a lot by potentially malicious individuals on the internet
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by:DavidESL
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if it's not open to the internet then I don't see any issues with opening ports internally as long as you are sufficiently protected  from external sources by a firewall.
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by:Alistair7
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But there is also the danger of internal attack also.  So again, which would you recommend keeping closed out of tcp139 and udp137 ?
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ah OK the problem with this then is if you have shared resources on your computer that are accessed by other machines on your LAN then closing 139 on that  particular machine wil block the use of the shared resources. 139 is a dangerous port to have open if you are not confident that it wont be used maliciously by other users on the same network. if you are not sharing anything on that machine then definately close TCP 139
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by:DavidESL
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alternatively use windows firewall to control what machines have access to that those ports and block all other IP addresses.
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Thanks very much David.  Bye.
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is that what you where looking for ?
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by:Alistair7
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Yes it was, except for 1 other question which occured to me:

UDP ports broadcast over the entire LAN and TCP ports send packets to specific ip addresses.

So forcing 40 computers on a LAN to use udp instead of tcp might create some flooding or overload of the LAN.

Any brief comments?
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by:DavidESL
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what are your concerns over an internal attack?
you are correct that opening UDP 137 can cause flooding see here.

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Windows_Networking/Internet_Protocols/Net_BIOS_and_NetBEUI/Q_22849757.html



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by:Alistair7
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Thanks a lot for those comments.  You've given me a lot to think about.
I won't take anymore of your time.

Thanks again.  Bye
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