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Permissions have been granted to folder, but user gets deny message

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I have a user who was added to a global group, which is a member of a universal group which is in a DL group which is granted RW permissions to a folder. Only AD is involved so there is no conflict from NTFS or other system. When the user tries to save a file, he is denied. However, when I tested the user on another machine, it worked like it should. Any ideas of why permissions are not working right? user has rebooted after being added to AD group.
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by:Daniel Wilson
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>>Only AD is involved so there is no conflict from NTFS or other system

NTFS would also use the AD group structure for its permissions.  You need to verify both the share-level and the file level permissions..
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by:geriatricgeek
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There is no NTFS involved. There are other folders on the same level and the user can get into those as permissions permit. The permissions are not inherited.
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by:robrandon
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Perhaps after the reboot, when the user logged on, the computer logged in with cached credentials because it didn't finish booting.

Have the user log out of the first computer (not reboot, just log out), and then logon again and test.

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by:Daniel Wilson
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>>There is no NTFS involved.

So what file system are you using?  Fat32?
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by:geriatricgeek
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NTFS. i guess what i'm trying to say is that only AD is involved in the permission structure. There would not be permissions or rights from novell or anything like that. I guess i made it more confusing adding that.
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OK, sorry I misunderstood.  I thought by NTFS you meant NT File System.  I never got into Novell enough to know there acronyms.

Both share permissions and file system permissions are important, however.

Have you checked both?



permissions.GIF
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by:geriatricgeek
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The share is one level up. I have spent hours on the security tab with the permissions. I have gone through group structure until I got blue in the face. I just tried another user to see if he could get into the folder to create a new folder and he could. the first user tried the same thing, and got permission denied. They are users who are members of the same global group, and then the universal groups and domain local goups would be the same via membership in the global group. what I can't figure out is why it will work for one and not the other. I have been beating at the same folder permissions for hours. and like I said, it is through the same groups. I'm frustrated with it because the only variable that should have happened is adding the user to the global group that other users have been fine with getting into.
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by:robrandon
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Make sure the user with the problem isn't in a group or  that has the DENY permission set as that will take precedence.  Also make sure that user is explicitly defined with DENY.

Didn't you earlier say it was working for that user from a different computer?

If that is the case, it isn't the permissions on the server.  It has to do with the credentials passed to the user.  Did you try having them log off and back on again, without rebooting?
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by:robrandon
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"Also make sure that user is explicitly defined with DENY"

should read:

"Also make sure that user is NOT explicitly defined with DENY"
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by:geriatricgeek
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I checked for deny permissions. there weren't any. they aren't used here, but I did make sure. I tested the user on 2 different pc's. one worked and 2 did not. same network segment, same domain, same location, et al. I did get the idea of looking at the profile. of course the computer that the permissions did work on does not have the power of the software to swap.
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got er working.
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