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Can you take an image of a server, and use it on a virtual machine(server) on the same box?

Change ip and the likes afterwards. It's a standalone server hosting a web application.
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yes you can.

install vmware workstation 6 demo or buy it.

use p2v to convert the physical server to a VMX file for workstation 6 http://www.vmware.com/products/converter/

make sure you change the network card to do not use a network connection so it wont interfear with the prod network. http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2004/03/05/vmware_workstation_4/networking.gif

play the image in VMWARE 6

change the ip address and computer name.

run new sid to replace the duplcate sid and rename the server. http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/NewSid.zip

change the network card on the virtual image back to bridge mode

you now have the same server in your productive network with a different computername, SID and IP address in VMWARE.
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I have access to WIndows Virtual Server 2005. Can I use that instead?
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Why workstation and not server?
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i am not sure virtual server 2005 has the function to convert physical to virtual.

i would advise to use workstation
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Thanks for your detailed response. Looks like that would work perfect. Server appears to be free. Wouldn't i use that? My box to virtualize is a Windows2003 Server.
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i used to use Server which IMO is not that good.

VMWARE workstation 6 is far better and works with p2v.

you can download a demo of worksation 6 for your test.
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Thanks alot. I'm starting from scratch here with Virtualization. I'm thinking its the way to go. This server I have I really want to back up better than nightly images. So just go with workstation eh? ok. Any other advice?
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so you want to install vmware workstation 6 on the same productive server?

if so why dont you just use another server or PC to host VMWARE worksation 6 and play these images on this rather tha the actaull server?
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I really dont know.

This is what I have
1. 2003 server standard running web application.

I want to duplicate this server for: testing, learning and backup in case application craps out. etc.
I was thinking of doing this on the current server but I didn't know i could run this anywhere. All new to me. Sorry i'm really just trying to learn.
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So I should install it on another server or pc, convert an image and go from there?
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yes setup a new pc/server on a test lab. then install vmware 6 ten copy the images to their and play them.
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I really appreciate the help. So definetely not server though. Tempting cause its free but......
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no dont install vmware 6 on the server itself where you will then play the images you make. you will then be able to test every thing in a virtual senario.

also be aware you  will also need a image of the DC in your network if you have one as it loggs on to this.

so also take a image of this and have both images run on the vmware workstation 6 server you setup.
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This server is standalone and does not log onto domain.
I was refering to getting VM Server instead of workstation cause its free. Whats the point of VM Server if you can run Windows 2003 Server on VM Workstation?
Playing where its safe makes sense, I get that.
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>>>>>>>>>>>use p2v to convert the physical server to a VMX file for workstation 6 http://www.vmware.com/products/converter/<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Can I run that on other servers, create the v and use it in my test environment. I dont have images of all servers, just a few.
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wtf.....lol
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server 2005 and vmware are just 2 different products. vmware workstaton 6 is much better and costs. server 2005 is free.

however as far as i am aware you cannot convert a physical pc to a virtual image for server 2005.

with vmware workstation 6 you can.
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ok this is the steps:

setupnew stanalone server with xp or server 203 etc

insall vmware dem on this server.

now install p2v on te PRODUCTIVE server.

open p2v and use the wizard to create a virtual image of th poductiv server. follow this http://www.howtoforge.com/vmware_converter_windows_linux

then copy and open the image created of the productive server to the vmware workstation PC
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When I say Server is free, Im refering to VM Server
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ok i see.

please dont use server 2005 use vmware workstation demo which too is free.
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