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Can I turn a Draytek 2600VG into a wireless access point without cabling between routers?

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I have two routers, one is a Netgear Rangemax DG834N wireless N, the other is an old Draytek Vigor 2600VG.
The Netgear is plugged in and working fine in the house, and inside the house the signal is great. However, I have an office in a converted building in the garden which is around 35 feet from the edge of the house.
The office has two storeys, the main area downstairs and a loft space upstairs. In the loft, I can get a good signal on my mac G4 with an airport usb stick and also my 12 month old notebook with either the built in adaptor or a WG111T N usb adaptor to obtain best speed, but there is no room to work properly.

Downstairs the signal is very weak and has frequent dropouts. The airport connection is unusable and the notebook and desktop (didn't mention that) are weak and intermittent even if I use the usb N adaptor with a massive usb extension to take it as close to the wall near the house as possible.

What I would like to know is if there is a way I can plug in my Vigor 2600VG in the office either upstairs in the loft or downstairs and allow it to attach wirelessly to the Netgear and become a wireless access point for the office, which would greatly increase the reliability and speed of the office network.

I have got a pair of more powerful 5/7dBi ears (cant remember which) for the Draytek to boost its range.
The office does not have its own physical telphone connection nor is cabled for such. It just has power.

Strangely, I have a tesco internet wireless phone hub hanging off the router and have a wirelsss phone in the office which gets a decent signal, so the possibility is there if the hardware will do it.

I am happy to initially connect the routers via network cable to initiate the link and then separate them.

Any help appreciated
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by:btassure
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I don't think the 2600VG can act as a wireless repeater/client I'm afraid.

Have you considered powerline ethernet? Dlink and their ilk make a variety of products now that plug into your electrical sockets and convert ethernet to powerlines and back again.
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by:Grover247
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Thanks for the info.
I have looked on the draytek sites and trawled the forum but they don't seem to know either, so I am inclined to accept your answer unless anyone knows differently.
As far as the powerline ethernet idea goes, I did think of that earlier, but the two sockets need to be on the same physical ring circuit to get a connection and the office has its own fuseboard which is spurred off a separate circuit from the house fuseboard. The two are on mutually exclusive circuits, and therefore can't talk.
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You could get another pair of powerline adapters and connect them to a socket right next to the office spur:

Office socket--PI--------------PI--socket in house of Office ring
                         |                    |
             office network         | ethernet cable
                                              |
house socket--PI-------------PI--socket in house on house ring
                         |
                         |
                        house network
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by:Darr247
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The fact that the office subpanel is fed from the house panel means they technically ARE on the same circuit.
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Sorry folks, maybe I wasn't making myself clear on this. The house had a fuse board with a spare circuit so a cable was taken from this and put outside using armoured cable under the driveway and into the 'office' which is effectively a large converted garage 30 feet away from the house and into another fuse board inside the office where it was then subdivided into the relevant circuits. It truly is not on the same circuit as I have tried it with a homeplug kit and so there is no way to connect this way and get them to see each other. I have seen what has been proposed and if you saw how things were laid out, you would immediately see what I'm getting at, but keep going with ideas. I really would like a solution

Cheers
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by:Darr247
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Yeah... that's exactly how my garage is fed. Only I haven't converted it to an office. But the powerline intercoms work great between the garage and house because that is technically on the same circuit. I haven't tried powerline ethernet adapters out there though. Anyway, I obviously don't know what I'm talking about, so I'll bow out and unsubscribe. Good luck. :-)
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by:Grover247
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To confirm or deny whether this works, I will take home a brand new box of netgear powerline adaptors we have lying around in the office that have been bought to go out to solve a problem similar to this at a remote site. Will tell you the results tomorrow
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Answer: Nope, it's not having it. They work internally in the office between up and downstairs, though so something must be separating the circuits somehow from the house to the office. Bummer! Think I'm going to have to resign myself to either working upstairs or running a network cable somehow. Thanks to all and have a great weekend!!!
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