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I lack a knowlege of how a book can be structured in InDesign CS3 using InDesign terminology (otherwise I could look up how to do it myself). Using MS Word terminology:

All my chapters start on an odd (right side) page and are in their own MS Word section (different first page and different even/odd pages) so I can control the headers the way I want. The header for all my chapter-start pages is just a page number. If that chapter is at least 2 pages long, then the page header for the even pages has the page number and title of the book. If the chapter is at least 3 pages long, then the page header for the odd pages has the page number and chapter title.

How do I set this up in InDesign?
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You would set up a different master page for each section, I would assume.
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Answer: For the most part this cannot be done in Adobe InDesign CS3. You can try to control text with text variables, but even that isn't enough in most layout situations. InDesign is designed to give the user control of the layout, not make the document automatically adjust the layout correctly when the author's makes content changes.
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Yes, it can be done, but it does involve manual work on  your part. The way you worded your question indicated nothing about automation or text variables. Using different master pages for different sections, and strategic use of blank pages, you can easily accomplish what you originally asked. I don't think it fair you answer your own question with an answer that isn't really related to how you asked the original question.
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Point taken, but your suggestion is the basis for a solution, but it does not address how to properly handle the stated requirement "If the chapter is at least 3 pages long, then the page header for the odd pages has the page number and chapter title." i.e., each chapter with a 3rd page would require its own master page under your solution. You did not describe the situation where overriding the master page would be best.
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I would be satisfied with a partial award of 100 points.
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I could care less about the points. The issue is your question as worded didn't really address what you wanted it in an answer. I gave succinct answer to your question as asked.
With the scenario you described, you would only need two master pages: one for chapters with even #'s of pages, one for odd #'s of pages.
If you need to just have one master page, you can always add a blank page to the end of odd #'d chapters so that the next chapter starts on the required page. Thats how its been done for ages.
 
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My original question said, "...page header for the odd pages has the page number and chapter title." at the end. How does your original response tell me how to handle the many different chapter titles with one master page?
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First, lets look at what you said:
1) The header for all my chapter-start pages is just a page number.
Not exactly clear - is it header the same as the page number, or is it a random page number?
2) If that chapter is at least 2 pages long, then the page header for the even pages has the page number and title of the book.
sounds like a master page to me.
3) If the chapter is at least 3 pages long, then the page header for the odd pages has the page number and chapter title.
sounds like a master page to me: your choice - a separate master for each chapter OR you have one master and add the title manually yourself. That is a personal preference and most people don't require that sort of specificity when it comes down to this sort of thing.
To me, setting up a master page for each section would be easiest, hence, my answer.
 
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