Increase the size of a Netware 6.5 Novell Volume

Posted on 2008-11-10
Last Modified: 2012-05-05
I have a Novell Netware 6.5 server. The user volume is filled up. It is currently 72 GB in size. I need to create a larger User Volume.

I have a blank hard disk of 146GB. How can I copy the entire contents of the old USER volume into the New hard disk without losing the rights information of the files?

Is it possible to do this when the users are working on the server? [Obviously all files will not be used by the user simultaneously.]
So, is there a way of doing this LIVE as I cannot bring the server down for a long period of time and the copying of 72GB would take a very long time.
Thank you for your inputs.
Question by:agnesfernandes
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    Accepted Solution

    Why not just add the capacity of the new drive to the existing pool? Using nssmu (from the console) you can partition the disc, then open up your existing pool, select expand and add the new disc. Then you have 72+146Gb as the total pool capacity.

    Alternatively, create a new pool on the new disc and copy the files over (at night, preferably). "Netware Copy", will retain trustees, as will the JRB utilities NCOPY and FSUPDATE.

    The copying of 72Gb should take a matter of minutes.

    Author Comment

    Hi alextoft,

    Think I have to go with option 2 as the 72GB is to be deployed somewhere else.

    I have more questions as a Novell newbie:

    1. What is "Netware copy"?

    2. Will NCopy copy the trustee rights? I was just browsing the Net and found that TCOPY does this job. D I use NCOPY and TCOPY one after the other?

    3. I understand that the JRButilities NETCOPY does this job. But this has to be purchased!

    4. Is there any option for copying and retaining trustee rights using Novell Internal commands?

    5. I would also like to create a log file or maybe have some check to ensure that all the files from the source were copied to the destination. How do I achieve this?

    Thanks for being supportive.

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    Assisted Solution

    Netware Copy - right click on any file/folder and this will be in the menu with a big red N beside it.

    Ncopy will preserve trustee rights if you tell it to.

    You *could* use ConsoleOne to copy the files which should also retain the rights, but it's not the fastest, not really designed for file operations.

    JRB utils, and Portlock Storage Manager should be in every Netware admin's toolbox. Neither are expensive, and both are hugely powerful products worth their weight in gold.

    JRB used to provide a portion of their utilities for free on their website. They no longer do this, but a number of mirrors still exist, such as this: which contains fsupdate, the best utility for doing this.
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    Expert Comment

    Nwcopy from Nick Payne is cheap and does a great job of copying user and trusttee rights  between volumes.

    I used it and it works great.
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    Expert Comment

    From my experience, Ncopy or Netware file copy utility does not copy trustees. Tcopy has problems with long filenames.

    How I have done the above before:

    down your server, Install the second disk in your server, start it up again
    Create a volume user2
    Use Trustee.nlm to create a backup of all trustees, directory quota's, presumably file owners, attributes etc.

    use robocopy source destination /mir /r:1 /w:5 to copy all files from user to user2 (some will be in use)

    This will take some time..
    Edit your trustee.txt where you saved all info from trustee.nlm, replace user with user2
    Import trustees on volume user2

    Now for the final switch, make sure your users are logged out, do a robocopy again (changed files are copied again), rename volume user to user.old, rename user2 to user and take out the first drive.

    The above scenario only works if the 72Gig drive only contains the user volume. If it also contains your sys volume and boot partition then you're in for some more work.

    You may ask yourself if all the work you're trying to do to save a 72 Gig drive isn't more expensive than buying another drive...

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