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Learn Citrix

Hi All,

What I know about Citrix is just its name, the following I need to know:
1-      What Citrix version do I need to download to practice Server and client connection
2-      Is there I website that teaches you step by step configuration
3-      Is it difficult to learn?

Thanks


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rawandnet
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hodgeyohnCommented:
1.  there would be no point to downloading anything prior to 4.5.  depending on the version of windows you are planning you could go to 5.0.
2.  not really.  the documentation is pretty good.  www.brianmadden.com is a good reference resource.
3.  not hard to learn, but easy to make mistakes.

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Carl WebsterCommented:
I would start with XenApp 5 for either Server 2003 or Server 2008.  The OS version depends on what is in your environment.  NOTE: There is no server side difference between XenApp 4.5 FR1 and XenApp 5 on Server 2003.

I do not know of any site that teaches step-by-step configuration.  For my web site (http://carlwebster.com) I am writing up an entire series on creating a lab environment for both XenApp 5 on Server 2003 and Server 2008.  But that is probably a week away from posting the first of the long series.

Is it difficult to learn?  Depends on you, your learning aility and how much time you will devote to not oly reading and studying but playing with the software in a lab.  I use VMware Workstation 6.5 to test and play with.  This is the lab environment I use when answering questions here on EE and doing PoCs (Proof of Concepts) for customers.

I have gone the extra mile in my lab environment with registered domain names, wildcard SSL certificates, extra home Internet bandwidth and one awesome lab server.  My lab server has more power than some of my customers use!

Every person learning Citrix started at zero.   How fast you get to your destination depends on the quality of your engine, your fuel and how hard you press on the accelerator.
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rawandnetAuthor Commented:
I do appologyes as I don't know anything about Citrix. do you meant XenServer Express Edition 4.5
to install Citrix do I have reboot the computer or install it after login to windows.

thanks
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Carl WebsterCommented:
4.5 is XenApp, formerly named Presentation Server, formerly name MetaFrame, formerly named....!

XenServer is a completely different product.
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Carl WebsterCommented:
oh, and yes, after you install XenApp you are required to reboot the server.  But you will also have to reboot the server after you install the prereqs (i.e. Terminal Services).
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hodgeyohnCommented:
depends on what we are talking about.

xenapp  --Presentation Server--- this is a remote access/ remote control application.  this is an extension of terminal services.

xenserver  --- Citrix's answer to vmware.  similar product.  each person should evalate both products for what works for them.
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rawandnetAuthor Commented:

then I have to install XenServer to run as a server and XenApp as a Client, simila to windows server and workstation.
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Carl WebsterCommented:
No, you do not.

XenServer is a virtualization platform just like VMware's ESX and Microsoft's Hyper-V.  I use VMware Workstation 6.5 for my personal lab work.

You can get a computer, install Server 2003, install all the prereqs, install XenApp 4.5 or 5, install your applications, publish them and play to your heart's content.  You can do all that on one server.  I wouldn't advocate doing that for a production server but for a lab server that will work just fine.

XenApp is just another piece of software you install on Server 2003 that enables multi user functionality to work "better" than just plain Terminal Services.
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rawandnetAuthor Commented:
Hi,
I know this is a stupt question for you guys. I have installed XenApp on server 2000, but I get a message "Citrix XenApp could not contact the server. check your network connection.  I don't know what is needed to be installed on Server and Client coputer to connect to Citrix.  is there a document to tell me what to do.  I have looked at http://carlwebster.com and www.brianmadden.com  but it wasn't basic.  
Thanks
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Carl WebsterCommented:
Well, my site (carlwebster.com) hasn't had the lab setup articles posted yet.

You probably getting the error because you haven't installed the Citrix and or Terminal Server license server components yet.

If you are putting everything on one server, I would do it this way:

Windows 2000
All Windows updates
IIS prereqs
terminal services in application sever mode
terminal services licensing in per user mode (if 2000 had per user, just don't remember)
reboot
All Windows updates
Citrix license components
upgrade to License components 11.5
The remaining Citrix components
Reboot
install Citrix HRP03
Reboot
Management console update
Reboot

You should now be ready to start installing applications.  You can install applications in one of two ways:

change user /install
install application
install updates to application
change user /execute

or

control panel
add/remove programs
add programs
browse to installer location
install application
install updates to application
click next
click finished

The 2nd option is the recommended procedure as it allows Windows to make sure everything is handled properly.
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hodgeyohnCommented:
unfortunately citrix is just not that simple.

it depends on several details.
how are you trying to access your system?
check the event viewer after a reboot are all services starting that should be.
what is the xml port for your farm
can you telnet to port 1494 on the citrix server (ica traffic).
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rawandnetAuthor Commented:
what i am trying to do is just a very basic connection for testing purpas. Is it realy that difficust to make a simple connection between Citirx and server, I have tried all the recommendation above but it didnt work for me. I might be missing an application or connection issue. Thanks for Carwebster that put all that detail, but still couldnt figure this out.
My question is:
What is needed to install on server 2000?
What is needed to install on client computer windows professional 2000 or XP?

Thanks again
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Carl WebsterCommented:
Why can't you use Server 2003?
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rawandnetAuthor Commented:
I have server 2003 I will use it if it helps. but what do i have to install on server and workstaion?
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Carl WebsterCommented:
I haven't installed on Windows 2000 in like 5 years so I would rather do it on 2003.
Assuming you have the XenApp 5 on Server 2003 download.

high level:

Install server 2003
install IIS, terminal services and terminal services licensing
install Windows updates
start the Citrix autorun.exe from the 1st CD not the Components CD
click Product installations and updates
click Install Citrix presentation Server 4.5 and its components
accept the EULA and prereqs
make sure every option is selected - no red "X"s

This will install Citrix licensing, presentation server, web interface, consoles and the doc center.

Reboot after the install and the basics of Citrix are now installed and ready to play with.

Start the Access Management Console (AMC)
run discovery
click Web Interface in the left pane
click Create site in the middle pane
access platform site
IIS site is Default Web SIte
leave path as is
DO NOT check the box to set this site as the default site as we have the license mgmt installed
leave the IIS site path box checked
next
local file
next
next
finish
next
enter your farm name
add your server
next
next
next
finish

you can now start IE and navigate to the web site path you see under Web Interface in the left pane.  For me this is http://CitrixDC/Citrix/AccessPlatform

Your basic base Web Interface logon screen should appear.

enter your admin login name and password, the domain is the name of the local server.

Click logoff and exit IE.

Go back to the AMC and expand your farm name and click on Applications.
in the middle pane click New, Publish Application
next
Display name will be Notepad
next
next
For command line, browse to c:\windows\system32\notepad.exe
next
add
add all
ok
next
add
double click your server name
scroll down and double click users
ok
next
next
finish

restart IE, go back to the Citrix web site, logon and you should now see Notepad available to you.
click Notepad
on the Client File Security dialog select Full Access and Never ask me again, ok
notepad should now start

You have successfully installed citrix, created a web site, published an application, logged on to the web site and ran your published application.

If you need more detail than this, you will need to wait until I finish my blog article.

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rawandnetAuthor Commented:
Thank you so much for your help, I will follow the instruction you tolled me.

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Raheman M. AbdulCommented:
rewandnet: sorry to post this here but since you are testing Citrix I would like to do the same.

Can you have a look at the following question I posted if you dont mind. if you can help me
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Software/System_Utilities/Remote_Access/Citrix/Q_24864077.html
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