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How to share 1 DSL internet connection between 2 WLAN networks (40-50 meters distance)
Hi!
At the moment I have 2 WLANs on 2 buildings 40-50 meters apart. Then there is 3rd building almost in between these having no WLAN at the moment.
See rough sketch about building location.
On building A there is a DSL modem A-link RR24 and D-link DIR-615 wireless WLAN station(Wireless Router). There is only 1 client on this "huge" network, laptop with D-link DWA-140 USB wireless connectivity device/adapter.
On building B there is A-link RR-24AP (i+) modem/router/WLAN station. There is also only 1 client pc and modem is located on place of letter uppercase 'B' in my sophisticated map :-)
Modem placement is fixed, I would have put it in a place of 'R' but the wires came impractical and onto the way...
About signal carrying tests on aforementioned environment:
When testing DIR-615 in n-mode the signal from building A carried like the line L is drawn, just outside the brickhouse B. Measurement was done by walking with laptop equipped DWA-140.
No signal inside --> test failed.
Then tested coverage of A-link RR-24 in g-mode inside B and it covered at least most of the building. However not carrying long outside the building measured with laptops b/g internal WLAN adapter.
Now I am planning to throw away RR-24 modem and get rid of DSL connection in A. Instead internet should be available by using connection shared from B by RR-24 AP(i+). Because this device only supports b/g mode the g is preferred and N is not used. I feel N-mode did not deliver the promises of extended range anyway.
Finally on to the questions: What is preferred way to implement sharing of B's internet connection to A and B WLANs? Would it be possible to use BRIDGE MODE with TP-Link's TL-WA501G 54Mbps Wireless Access Point (http://www.tp-link.com/products/product_des.asp?id=36) ?
This device would be cheap, but will it work together with these other devices A-link RR-24AP (i+) and D-link Dir-615 ? Will I need 1 or 2 of these Tp-links to create bridge between these 2 WLANS? Traps and pitfalls on these ideas, feel free to tell if I have totally misunderstood something!!!!
I also know that something similar could be done with Access Points with WDS, but I am not sure if wanting to buy any more hardware. I am not sure if WDS works ok with these existing devices.
And what about repeaters, it seems they are not that great but could be simple to setup??
I must say that I am totelly overwhelmed with complexity of this "easy wireless technology" as I thought it should be nowadays.
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At the moment I have 2 WLANs on 2 buildings 40-50 meters apart. Then there is 3rd building almost in between these having no WLAN at the moment.
See rough sketch about building location.
On building A there is a DSL modem A-link RR24 and D-link DIR-615 wireless WLAN station(Wireless Router). There is only 1 client on this "huge" network, laptop with D-link DWA-140 USB wireless connectivity device/adapter.
On building B there is A-link RR-24AP (i+) modem/router/WLAN station. There is also only 1 client pc and modem is located on place of letter uppercase 'B' in my sophisticated map :-)
Modem placement is fixed, I would have put it in a place of 'R' but the wires came impractical and onto the way...
About signal carrying tests on aforementioned environment:
When testing DIR-615 in n-mode the signal from building A carried like the line L is drawn, just outside the brickhouse B. Measurement was done by walking with laptop equipped DWA-140.
No signal inside --> test failed.
Then tested coverage of A-link RR-24 in g-mode inside B and it covered at least most of the building. However not carrying long outside the building measured with laptops b/g internal WLAN adapter.
Now I am planning to throw away RR-24 modem and get rid of DSL connection in A. Instead internet should be available by using connection shared from B by RR-24 AP(i+). Because this device only supports b/g mode the g is preferred and N is not used. I feel N-mode did not deliver the promises of extended range anyway.
Finally on to the questions: What is preferred way to implement sharing of B's internet connection to A and B WLANs? Would it be possible to use BRIDGE MODE with TP-Link's TL-WA501G 54Mbps Wireless Access Point (http://www.tp-link.com/products/product_des.asp?id=36) ?
This device would be cheap, but will it work together with these other devices A-link RR-24AP (i+) and D-link Dir-615 ? Will I need 1 or 2 of these Tp-links to create bridge between these 2 WLANS? Traps and pitfalls on these ideas, feel free to tell if I have totally misunderstood something!!!!
I also know that something similar could be done with Access Points with WDS, but I am not sure if wanting to buy any more hardware. I am not sure if WDS works ok with these existing devices.
And what about repeaters, it seems they are not that great but could be simple to setup??
I must say that I am totelly overwhelmed with complexity of this "easy wireless technology" as I thought it should be nowadays.
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ASKER
Hello again!
I have decided that I will add directional antenna outside of building B (RR-24APi+).
Antenna will be placed in a way that there is direct path to ANOTHER antenna outside of Building A (Dir-615).
I am going to use G-mode only, not taking advantage of N features in Dir-615. Antennas will be DIY antennas.
If I have understood correctly I may use Access Point/ WDS feature in Dir-615 and thus avoid using (and buying) additional bridge devices?? Is this correct assumption?
Any comments and further advices are welcome, I will wait Your comments and if "Lights are Green" I will start building these antennas...
I have decided that I will add directional antenna outside of building B (RR-24APi+).
Antenna will be placed in a way that there is direct path to ANOTHER antenna outside of Building A (Dir-615).
I am going to use G-mode only, not taking advantage of N features in Dir-615. Antennas will be DIY antennas.
If I have understood correctly I may use Access Point/ WDS feature in Dir-615 and thus avoid using (and buying) additional bridge devices?? Is this correct assumption?
Any comments and further advices are welcome, I will wait Your comments and if "Lights are Green" I will start building these antennas...
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I am sorry to be such a pain in the butt, but I still need clarification, maybe a drawed diagram about the devices in buildings A and B.
My suggestion is:
Building A: Modem/router/WLAN A-link RR-24 AP(i+) and antenna outside. Note: At the moment I would not use WLAN inside A,only LAN-connection to router. Therefore only antenna output in RR may be connected to outdoor antenna.
Building B: Modem/router A-link RR + WLAN A-link Dir-615 + 1 indoor antenna and 1 outdoor antenna
Dir 615 has fortunately 2 antenna connections so this should work as written.
Where would I put these bridge/repeater devices, I don't fully understand. If you manage to clarify that I will give You points and start building antennas :-)
My suggestion is:
Building A: Modem/router/WLAN A-link RR-24 AP(i+) and antenna outside. Note: At the moment I would not use WLAN inside A,only LAN-connection to router. Therefore only antenna output in RR may be connected to outdoor antenna.
Building B: Modem/router A-link RR + WLAN A-link Dir-615 + 1 indoor antenna and 1 outdoor antenna
Dir 615 has fortunately 2 antenna connections so this should work as written.
Where would I put these bridge/repeater devices, I don't fully understand. If you manage to clarify that I will give You points and start building antennas :-)
ASKER
Sorry I mixed my fine naming system. Swap the A and B in previous post. RR-24AP(i+) is in B and Dir 615 in A.
ASKER
Additional question about WDS:
Dir-615 has some kind of WDS, where I can input ssid and channel used in RR24APi+ settings. Is this connection enough between these networks? Does data go from A to B and B to A?
I am sorry if I seem to be so stubborn not accepting to buy 1 or more TP_link's bridge devices unless it is the only solution...
Dir-615 has some kind of WDS, where I can input ssid and channel used in RR24APi+ settings. Is this connection enough between these networks? Does data go from A to B and B to A?
I am sorry if I seem to be so stubborn not accepting to buy 1 or more TP_link's bridge devices unless it is the only solution...
Yes to both questions. I think this is your only solution is to get a bridge.
ASKER
Ok, I go and buy one TP-Link's TL-WA501G 54Mbps Wireless Access Point and put that in bridge more in building B.
I am still quite confused on this topic, but now it is enough to know that I don't need awfully lot of expensive devices. Thanks for help, it is unfortunate that I am so slow learner on this topic...
I am still quite confused on this topic, but now it is enough to know that I don't need awfully lot of expensive devices. Thanks for help, it is unfortunate that I am so slow learner on this topic...
The second solution would be to set up a mesh wireless network in bldg C & place wireless repeaters in bldg A & B.