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Mixing Symantec 10.1 and Endpoint
I am currently running 10.1 on my Win2003 server, with about a dozen clients
Now I have a couple employees running Vista. As long as I have held out, even I am thinking about taking the plunge!
I thought it would be no sweat to install 10.1 on these Vista machines, and then i ran into the vicious cycle that i know others have been in and wasted SO much time...You try to install, and it tells you that 10.1 is incompatible with Vista, and then Vista tells you (incessantly, over and over) about NDIS and driver incompatibility.
And after following links to "fix this problem" - come to find out the only solution is to get Endpoint.
Now, I have seen elsewhere here on EE that 10.2.2 works with Vista, but I cannot go that route i don't think because (not on my watch) someone prior to me let the support expire.
And so, technically it would be cheaper, sort of, to buy Endpoint, with 5 or 10 seats, than reinstate my support for 10.1.
So here is my question. If I have to buy Endpoint to protect Vista, but right now I would only need a couple seats - and so I don't want to buy enough seats to get rid of my 10.1...
Can I have Endpoint on one server managing clients x, y, z and keep 10.1 running on another server running a,b,c,d etc?
Now I have a couple employees running Vista. As long as I have held out, even I am thinking about taking the plunge!
I thought it would be no sweat to install 10.1 on these Vista machines, and then i ran into the vicious cycle that i know others have been in and wasted SO much time...You try to install, and it tells you that 10.1 is incompatible with Vista, and then Vista tells you (incessantly, over and over) about NDIS and driver incompatibility.
And after following links to "fix this problem" - come to find out the only solution is to get Endpoint.
Now, I have seen elsewhere here on EE that 10.2.2 works with Vista, but I cannot go that route i don't think because (not on my watch) someone prior to me let the support expire.
And so, technically it would be cheaper, sort of, to buy Endpoint, with 5 or 10 seats, than reinstate my support for 10.1.
So here is my question. If I have to buy Endpoint to protect Vista, but right now I would only need a couple seats - and so I don't want to buy enough seats to get rid of my 10.1...
Can I have Endpoint on one server managing clients x, y, z and keep 10.1 running on another server running a,b,c,d etc?
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So, so long as I keep my current clients running on the 10.1, I can buy Endpoint and say, only buy 5 seats for now. Use Endpoint for the few Vista clients I have, and then steadily add seats as needed.
And having both of these apps on the same domain, but on different servers is ok?
Then either I someday do away with 10.1 and buy enough seats for Endpoint, or I have to keep 10.1 around? What if I ever wanted to switch the two? Meaning swap the servers they are on?
Other than it might end up being a headache...my 10.1 is on my primary server right now. The Endpoint would go on a secondary box (still a DC). If I someday wanted to switch that so that I have Endpoint on my primary server running more clients than 10.1, it is possible right?
What about all those unmanaged clients out there? If/when i ever made a switch to Endpoint altogether, would those unmanaged machines cease to work?
And having both of these apps on the same domain, but on different servers is ok?
Then either I someday do away with 10.1 and buy enough seats for Endpoint, or I have to keep 10.1 around? What if I ever wanted to switch the two? Meaning swap the servers they are on?
Other than it might end up being a headache...my 10.1 is on my primary server right now. The Endpoint would go on a secondary box (still a DC). If I someday wanted to switch that so that I have Endpoint on my primary server running more clients than 10.1, it is possible right?
What about all those unmanaged clients out there? If/when i ever made a switch to Endpoint altogether, would those unmanaged machines cease to work?
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OK, wow, thanks. But on that last point, I would then have to purchase enough licenses for all those unmanaged clients, correct?
And tell me if i am missing something here, and I have put in a question on this to my usual Symantec reseller, but the "Corporate Antivirus" i had did not ever have any restriction it seemed on licenses, yet SEP is sold in packages of #s of seats 5, 10, 25, etc...
Is that right? Or am i understanding the licensing process incorrectly?
And well, while I am at it - if that is the case, and I am stuck buying licenses for each seat now whereas I have way more installs from 10.1 than I could pay for in SEP, maybe it is worth my while to reinstate my support and just go to 10.2?
And if I did that, would I then have to do an upgrade on all of those unmanaged clients?
I have increased the points as you can see since I am making this a little more complicated and asking for more answers. I hope that is acceptable?!?
And tell me if i am missing something here, and I have put in a question on this to my usual Symantec reseller, but the "Corporate Antivirus" i had did not ever have any restriction it seemed on licenses, yet SEP is sold in packages of #s of seats 5, 10, 25, etc...
Is that right? Or am i understanding the licensing process incorrectly?
And well, while I am at it - if that is the case, and I am stuck buying licenses for each seat now whereas I have way more installs from 10.1 than I could pay for in SEP, maybe it is worth my while to reinstate my support and just go to 10.2?
And if I did that, would I then have to do an upgrade on all of those unmanaged clients?
I have increased the points as you can see since I am making this a little more complicated and asking for more answers. I hope that is acceptable?!?
1) I'm not a sales guy, so I can't help in licensing issues
2) As far as I know, SAV 10 or SEP 11 they are priced the same. So, if you renew the current SAV 10.x, you are eligible to download (from Fileconnect) and install SEP in your environment.
3) All SEP client in your network has to be licensed.
2) As far as I know, SAV 10 or SEP 11 they are priced the same. So, if you renew the current SAV 10.x, you are eligible to download (from Fileconnect) and install SEP in your environment.
3) All SEP client in your network has to be licensed.
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that should have been instead of migrating to end point my bad :)
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I thank you both. xmachine provided a lot of solid info, and I realize that some of questions were about licensing and sales and not so much expert/tech related. jimmymcp02 that article was also helpful. I will tell you both that at the moment I am thinking about renewing if I can and then making a total upgrade at some point later. Rather than messing with 2 versions. Just seems cleaner, even if a little more expensive. But all of this was very helpful. Thanks!!!
Yes, this the best solution. But you need to keep the 10.1 server up and running. Because endpoint server doesn't support legacy clients management and virus definitions update (except logging, it's supported).
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