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When copy-paste Acrebat form fields from a landscape documento to other, they appear rotated

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Hi,
I have a landscape PDF document with form fields in it. When I get the new version of the document I select all the fields from the original document and copy and paste them in the new one, but they all are rotated. Nothing I try to do solves the problem (rotate the fields, rotate the document, primt and reprint the destination document with different orientatios before pasting the fields...) with no success at all.
We have more and more documents to update and this starts to be a real problem
Any suggestion?
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by:Karl Heinz Kremer
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Try an alternative approach: Create a copy of the old document with your form fields, and open that in Acrobat. Then use the "Replace Pages" function and select to replace the pages with the content from your new document (the one without the form fields). That should work, because it does not modify the form fields, but the "background" should get replaced.
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by:DesarrolloBgn
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Hi khkremer,
Thanks for your suggestion. It looked a good idea but it didn´t work. It's like if Acrobat kept 'somewhere' an offset in degrees that applies to the fields when pasting.
Following your suggestion, if I have field F1 at the left side of the original document and I replace the page for the new one, field F1 appears automatically at the right side of the document.
I have even inserted as a new page the new document, and if I copy the fields from page 1 (original) to page 2 (new one), they rotate.
It's frustrating!

Thanks for your help
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by:Karl Heinz Kremer
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Could you attach on of these documents? If that's not possible can you please describe how you initially created the form.
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by:DesarrolloBgn
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I attach both documents, the original one with fields in it and the new one without fields.
Their source is external (tax forms from the administration). The person who inserted the fileds does not work with us any more.
I have compared both documents (in Acrobat, Document -> Compare documents) and it looks like if one was turned 180 degrees compared to the other.
I appreciate your help very much.

original.pdf
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Karl Heinz Kremer earned 500 total points
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OK, I found a way to do it without any further rotation of your form fields.
I don't understand why Acrobat is not honoring the page rotation flag when you copy&paste, or when you replace the page content - in my opinion, they should.

The problem is caused by the following situation: Your original document has a page rotation of 180 degrees applied to the page content. You may remember why that was done, or maybe that knowledge when out the door with the person who created the initial form. The new form is created with a page rotation of 0. Because of that, the page content needs to be rotated to match up with the original file.

Here is what I did to make the two files match: I opened the new file and rotated the page content by 180 degrees. (Document>Rotate Pages). Now the content of course is in the wrong direction, so we need to correct that, but so that once corrected, Acrobat still "thinks" that the content is rotated by 180 degrees (to match your original file).

What I propose you do is usually considered a very bad idea... I want you to refry your file by printing it to the Adobe PDF printer. This will create a new PDF file in which the content is rotated, but you no longer have the "this page should be displayed rotated by 180 degrees" flag as part of the PDF page. Acrobat does not actually rotate your page content, it just displays it differently, and it stores information about that fact in the PDF file.  

Now that you have a new PDF file, we need to rotate the content back by 180deg so that it looks like it did before we started this whole process.

And now you can use that newly created file for your "Replace Pages" operation.
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Great job!
Thanks a lot!!
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