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Problem Adding an OS 9 G3 to an Existing OS X Macintosh Network

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I have a functioning OSX Ethernet Network, using a Netgear Router and a Netgear Switch box.
The purpose of the network is to share files. The network does that perfectly.
I have 10.5 and 10.4 Macs all sharing files.

In the Network control panel, I set the TCPIP numbers manually.
So the router is 192.168.1.1
Mac #1 is 192.168.1.2, and so on.
Subnet Mask is 255.255.255.0

HERE'S THE PROBLEM:

I connected a G3 Beige Mac running 9.2.2 to the same switch box the Macs are on.
I used the locked stock full set of extension.
I set Appletalk to ON. (There's a checkbox somewher that I set to "always turn on".
I set the Owner and Users to have no passwords.
The switch box lights up properly at the port on which I atttach the Ethernet cable from the G3.
I turn off the Firewall on the other Macs.
I try different Ethernet cables, different ports on the (perfectly good) switch box.
I lok in the Chooser for other Macs.
I look on other Macs for the G3.
I type the TCPIP number directly into the G3.
I do the same on the other Macs.
I pray.
I curse.

BUT - The G3 cannot see other Macs. THe other Macs cannot see the G3.
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It has been a long time since I used OS 9, but my recollection is that there is a box you have to check to use AppleTalk over TCP/IP.  I think it is in the AppleTalk control panel.
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Sorry, the check box is in the File Sharing control panel:  http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2453
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Hi,

I have had it turned on. I agree it should probably been on, but it is not sufficient to get it to work.

I deleted and invisible file,  Appleshare PDS (I think), and tried again.

I get an error message on myOSX G4 machine when trying to connect to the G3: "incompatible AFP version".

So I am guessing the OSX version of AFP is not backwards compatible.

I tried installing something called Shareway IP, but it does not show the G4 as existing on the network, and the G4 does not see it...
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Shareway IP is for OS 8, to my recollection, and just adds the AppleTalk over IP button to the filesharing control panel that OS 9 already has.
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Now I see this error message on the G3 when I try to connect it to the G4 using the Chooser:

The connection has been broken.

I suppose I should be grateful that now the G4 shows up by User name in the Chooser window...

What is happening? What should I do to get this to work?
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Not being able to get this working with the information presented, I have junked this machine and replaced it with a more modern one.
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