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Page cut off on low resolution when going from Publisher '07 to Frontpage '03

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Hello,

I am working on a website for my dad ( www.theadditionstudio.com) , and I'm not good with HTML, so I started doing it in MS Publisher '07, but I couldn't get it to center things the way I wanted to, so I x-fered everything to FrontPage '03, which even though its not as fancy, seems more straight forward, and my problem is: the page displays fine on larger screens or resolutions 1024x768  and up, but anything below that instead of it just automatically adjusting/resizing  the page for the display size (like it does on my original website using FrontPage '03 for his band www.zipcityblues.com), it will cut off the right hand side whatever doesn't fit.

Any ideas on how to fix this without having to re-do everything from scratch???

Thanks!
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I would really stay away from Publisher to create a website.  I have not used it but I know in the past, just like Microsoft Word, it would create bloated HTML code & give you the allusion of designing a website, not developing.  Expression Web might be another option as well - they have a free trial and you can get an upgrade.
Center a website in FrontPage might help some.  And then you might read website to fill screen on some issues users might run into from time to time.
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Yeah I'm definetly staying away from it in the Future, I was just hoping to not have to redo this whole site if possible.  I tried to check out those links you sent but they both just brought up a HTTP 500 error.
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Sorry about that, forgot that the admin was going to do some maintenance this morning on it (the MSSQL).  I think they said it would be
Right now, you have a lot of the bloated code as I thought (as below).  There is no easy way to fix that - except to re-do it with Expression Web / FrontPage unfortunately.  

<div style='position:absolute;width:20.-1008in;height:10.-507in'>

<!--[if gte vml 1]><v:shapetype id="_x0000_t202"

 coordsize="21600,21600" o:spt="202" path="m,l,21600r21600,l21600,xe">

 <v:stroke joinstyle="miter"/>

 <v:path gradientshapeok="t" o:connecttype="rect"/>

</v:shapetype><v:shape id="_x0000_s1026" type="#_x0000_t202" style='position:absolute;

 left:282pt;top:110.25pt;width:417pt;height:33pt;z-index:5;visibility:visible;

 mso-wrap-edited:f;mso-wrap-distance-left:2.88pt;mso-wrap-distance-top:2.88pt;

 mso-wrap-distance-right:2.88pt;mso-wrap-distance-bottom:2.88pt' filled="f"

 fillcolor="black" stroked="f" strokecolor="#999" strokeweight="0"

 o:cliptowrap="t">

 <v:stroke dashstyle="dash"/>

 <v:shadow color="#ccc"/>

 <v:path insetpenok="f"/>

 <o:lock v:ext="edit" shapetype="t"/>

 <v:textbox style='mso-column-margin:5.7pt' inset="2.85pt,2.85pt,2.85pt,2.85pt">

<p class="MsoTagline" style="text-align: center">

<span lang="en-US" style="font-size: 16.857pt; line-height: 119%; font-family: Verdana; language: en-US">

Welcome to the Addition Studio</span></p>

 </v:textbox>

</v:shape><![endif]-->

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There isn't just some code I can remove that will make the page display normally instead of cutting it off on lower resolutions?  It seems to me like that would have to be something that makes it do that instead of displaying normally.
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Well you are using absolute positioning, which is a problem in itself.  This basically forces the elements to be in one place, no matter the browser resolution.  
I am looking at the URL you gave in a 1280X1024 resolution (even though my monitor is a higher resolution) and nothing seems to be cut off.   Can you let me know what resolution you are using & what is being cut off so I can focus on that piece of the code?
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(BTW, the links should work now as well)
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It seems to be when you start going below 1024x768...so in older CRT monitors w/ 800x600 or 640x480.  Is there anyway to remove absolute positioning w/o redoing everything?
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Unfortunately not (to removing the absolute positioning).  If you look at your code, it is almost all Microsoft Word / Publishing (bloated) HTML code.
I looked at the page on 800X600, there is the scrolling bar that is available, but hopefully those two articles explained about building to fit resolutions?  
You could use percentages to help you a bit better with the layout but then you lose some control on where the text is, etc
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Great...thanks for all your help though!  How would I implement the percentages?
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Well you would need to re-do the layout of the site.  Have you considered using CSS (well you are using it now actually but using the absolutely positioned elements)?
Or you can use a table set at a certain percentage and then have your website inside that
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Thanks for all your suggestions!  I appreciate the input.
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