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Hi Experts,

The boot SuSE disc showed a boot screen. After that, the "Welcome" screen never showed up.
The screen turned black with red and green.

Anyone encountered similar situation? Either write image disc is bad or download from site?
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Question by:2summer
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by:torimar
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Hi 2summer,

I thought you had tested your download with an md5check?
If it was ok, then the burning must have gone wrong.

What "boot screen" did you see? Was it the Suse boot menu? That has an integrated option to test the CD (installation media).
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by:torimar
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Also, pay attention to the following when burning:
- do not use no-name media
- do not use rewritable media
- use quality media tested to work well with your burner
- burn at lowest possible speed
- burn 'disk-at-once', not 'track-at-once' (if possible)


Here are step-by-step instructions for burning with ImgBurn:
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showpost.php?p=302704&postcount=6

Select "Write image file to disk", then scroll down in the guide to "The burning process".
In the following image you must select the Suse iso as "source".


burn01.png
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by:2summer
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Hi Torimar,

At the end, I have an OpenSuSE Project screen with X. After I closed the X, the Desktop Screen of Firefox, Install, and etc icons.

For some reason, I can't eject the disc. I had to remove battery to take disc out.
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by:2summer
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Torimar,

OpenSuSE Project screen with Community Support & Build Service with other links.
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by:torimar
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Wait a minute please, I'll have to make a screenshot to present to you.
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by:torimar
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I guess it's this what you saw?

Well, that *is* the Suse live desktop. It is what you wanted.

You could not eject the CD, because the live operating system is running off it. Thats why the CD tray is blocked. It would crash if you took the CD out.

To shut down this Suse live system, select the little green symbol on the left side of the lower system panel. This is like the Windows start menu. It will give you the option to "Leave", which you select, then select "Restart" or "Shutdown".
suseKDE1.png
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by:2summer
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Hi Torimar,

Please do, so I know what it suppose to turn out at the end.

Thanks Torimar!
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by:torimar
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For installing Suse on your computer, you need to select the "Install" icon on the desktop.

But are you sure this is what you want to do? Although installing Suse is nowhere near as complicated as installing Windows, you do seem to have difficulties in getting familiar with computer-related issues that are new to you.
And this is a completely new operating system you would have to learn. If you wish to get familiar with it slowly, just use this live system for a while. It is fully operational.
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by:2summer
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Hi Torimar,

Yeah, I want to install SuSE on laptop. Not this computer. I want to learn the new environment. :)

For some reason, it never finished the installation. Either hang-up or screen turned black at end.

I want to keep trying. :)

Thanks Torimar!!!
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by:torimar
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In the past 12-13 years I have installed Suse on numerous systems; although it is quite normal that the screen turns black for a while during the obligatory reboot, it is highly unusual that the screen *stay* black or that the installation freezes.

Maybe, the next time you try you could make note of the installation decisions you make, so that I may look through them and see what could be the reason of this failure.

By the way: is it a more contemporary computer you try to install on, or is it an old one that you don't need any more. The black screen you report could also be due to failing hardware requirements.
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by:2summer
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Hi Torimar,

I need to make decision. The hardware requires 512 MB, but laptop has 256 MB. The laptop is very old.
In past, I expanded to 512 MB but it couldn't take it.

I might have to use my IMAC with CentOS.
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by:torimar
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If you could tell me what exactly you are trying to achieve (why Linux?; why Suse?; what general purpose? etc.) and what hardware/computers *exactly* you have at your disposition, it will be my pleasure to assist you in your decision.
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by:2summer
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Hi Torimar,

I just want Linux for learning or testing purpose. E.g. Create user to login & password using terminal.

I probabely keep orig system with IMac without CentOS. In the end, I need to get a new laptop for linux.

Any suggestions?
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I have so many suggestions that I'm afraid I could confuse you.

1.) CentOS/RH, Debian and SuSe are the most widely spread Linux server systems. I would not recommend them for beginners, and I would not recommend them for laptops (although laptops sure will run with them)

2.) For beginners I'd recommend one of the Linux distributions that are notorious for being "easy to learn". This would be:
Ubuntu / Mint, Mandriva, MEPIS, PCLinuxOS

3.) For old hardware there are special Linux versions. I recommend one of those:
TinyME, Puppy, Vector Linux, MEPIS AntiX, Mint Fluxbox

You can find all of these Linux distros and download locations on http://distrowatch.com - just type the name of the distro you would like to know more about in the text field on the upper left corner, beneath the Distrowatch logo.

In order to get more concrete: In your present situation I'd recommend you look at MEPIS for your learning computer (http://www.mepis.org/mirrors) and I suggest you try the brand new "Mint Fluxbox edition" on your old laptop: http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_felicia_fluxbox.php


One last note:
Linux is not like Windows; it has a much larger variety. Thus Linux has a number of so-called "window managers" which organize the desktop: Gnome, KDE, KDE4, Xfce, Fluxbox, Openbox etc. Some distros, like Suse, come in almost all of these flavours, others only have one window-manager. When you first are confronted with a new window-manager, it may seem like a completely different system. But it is not; only the start menu and desktop navigation differ. The underlying system is the same, and you will quickly get familiar with an unknown window-manager.
Of the two distros I especially recommended, MEPIS has the KDE desktop (which you wanted for Suse), but Mint Fluxbox has the fluxbox desktop which needs a lot less resources and thus runs fine on old hardware.
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by:torimar
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This I forgot:

If you plan to buy a laptop for Linux, make sure you look at its hardware factsheet first.
Potentially problematic hardware could be:
- Wireless
- Bluetooth
- integrated graphics adapter
- integrated webcam

Get the exact model names from the factsheet and then ask here whether this hardware is well supported by Linux.
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by:2summer
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Hi Torimar,

Have you ever installed CentOS on IMAC? What are the challenges?

I read some pages of CentOS bible manual. :)

Most of my instructors recommended to install SuSE or CentOS.
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by:2summer
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I saw Linux store sells SuSE or CentOS for I386.

What's the difference b/w these two?
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by:torimar
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Well, if you have instructors, then you are learning Linux for a specific purpose. You did not say that.
Follow their advice then. They will know very well what you need.

No, I never installed CentOs on an IMAC. I have used Redhat many years ago, now I sometimes use Fedora, which is very similar to CentOS, but less stable and more "cutting edge".

Please *never* buy Linux. It's all free for download.
The main difference perhaps is that CentOS does not have Yast, but different administrative tools instead; Yast is typical for Suse.

Of CentOS, a new version has come out only a week ago: http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/5/isos/i386 - I'm not sure if that will install on your laptop.

Suse, however, should be expected to run with 256 megs; maybe the error was because you wanted to install it with KDE4, which is very hungry for resources.
If you want another go, download the Installation DVD: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/iso/openSUSE-11.1-DVD-i586.iso

Then, when installing, unselect the Gnome and KDE/KDE4 desktop managers in the software selection, and select "Xfce" instead. This might work.
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by:2summer
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Hi Torimar,

Thanks so much for useful info.

I always admire your suggestions. :)

Again, I install SuSE, the same *frozen black screen with new download. It didn't work with 256 megs.

I will give it a shot on i386 with SuSE.
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