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Backup "Everything" with XP Backup/Restore???

Posted on 2009-04-08
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Evening all:

I'm having a problem with XP backup/restore.  I've spent several hours perusing the EE Knowledge Base on the subject (though I didn't get through the, literally, thousands of hits from Search), but remain confused. Some KB entries state baldly that I cannot do what I wanted to do using XP Backup/Restore; others imply that it is indeed possible.

Prior to completely reconfiguring my RAID, I backed up the  system using XP Backup/Restore, choosing to backup "everything on this computer" and the system state from the Backup menu. I also also created an ASR diskette.  Of course my reconfiguration of the RAID has destroyed the original disk data.

I created a new XP installation on the reconfigured RAID using the original XP installation disk and the ASR diskette.  But I did not get back "everything" from the original installation: I am missing (at least) the Windows updates, the additional drivers I have added, the User table or the Programs.  

The contents of my original C:\Documents and Settings\[my user name] seem to have been restored, but it is not associated with any User on the new system.  I have registered myself as a User on the new system with the same name as on the old (avhfj) but the registration process has added the computer name, making me "avhfj.studio-2", and XP will not allow me to change that name.

I have also tried to restore my backup using the same technique that I always used on NT, namely by creating a parallel operating system on another volume and using that system's Backup/Restore to restore my system to the first volume.  That method does not use the XP installation disk or the ASR diskette.  But that didn't work either.

So these are my questions:

     (1)     Did XP backup fail to backup the files now missing?  (If so, what is it that Bill Gates doesn't understand about the word "Everything"?)

     (2)    If not, how can I now recover those files from the backup?

     (3)   I'm pretty certain that my Outlook Express data base has been restored under my old user name (avhfj), but how do I associate that directory system with my new user name (avhfj.studio-2)?

And: Yes - I have bought Norton Ghost to use next time.

Cheers,  . . .  Alwyn FJ
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Is this RAID 1 or 0 set up?
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look for the outlook express files in :
C:\Windows\Application Data\Outlook Express\{GUID}
or
C:\Documents and Settings\<User>\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{GUID}\Microsoft\Outlook Express

and copy them to the new user
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Any other backup program has to be better then the built in Microsoft back up program.  
I would assume the XP backup only backs up Documents, Favorites, pictures and such.  
I've been testing out Macrium:
http://download.cnet.com/Macrium-Reflect-Free-Edition/3000-2242_4-10845728.html?tag=mncol
As far as getting your files back
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Thank you Compnecessity1 and nobus:

It's Raid 5, Compnecessity1.  Also, your second message breaks off just where it gets really interesting.  Should I watch same time, same channel next week?  :-))

nobus: When I look in C :\Documents and Settings\<User>\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities, thera are five listed; how do I no which one is the right one?

Thanks again
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what 5 ? post them
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Sorry, as far as getting the files back from the back ups they should be zip files?  
And not everything as you expected is in the backups?  
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It seems I have been maligning Bill.  I restored the System State AGAIN using the Backup/Restore from the RAID I was trying to regenerate.  Everything now seems to work :-().  One of life's mysteries.  In case anyone else in trouble get's to read this, these were the sequential steps I went through, as best as I can remember:

     1.     I restored the system, to the C:\ drive, using the original XP installation disk + the ASR diskette.  Result: old system (let's call it S1), no new or updated drivers, programs or users.

     2.     I created a second XP system (S2) on another volume (D:\), using the same procedure as in 1.

     3.     I used the Backup/Restore from S2 to re-restore S1 from the backup files, telling the Restore Wizard to restore the files to Drive C:\.  Result: much the same as 1 above.

     4     I brought S1 up to date from Windows Update.  Result: much the same.

     5.     I re-restored the System State from the backup using the Backup/Restore from S1 itself.  Result: everything's hunky-dory.

I so understand.  Not.

I really appreciate your responses, but I think this counts as "solving the problem myself", wouldn't you say.  Would anyone feel aggrieved if I don't award points?  Or is there a way of awarding bonus point without awarding the mainline points?

Thanks again, . . .  Alwyn FJ
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no problem, close it as you like..
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