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Am hoping someone can help me with this .... I have purchased a new workstation and put it on our library's Novell network, but the two printers on the LAN are not being recognized.  How can I add these printers to this new workstation?  I logged in as "admin", but the printers did not show when I tried to use the function "add new printer".  I would very much appreciate  if someone could walk me through this!

Many thanks
Carole
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Carol,

Do you have any ideas on how the printers are setup on the network?  Like...via iPrint?

You can usually go to the servers ip address /ipp and get a listing if they were setup via iPrint.  For example:
http://192.168.1.2/ipp

Then a web page comes up with a listing of printers and prompts you to install the iPrint client if you haven't installed it already.  You could be using straight NDPS with no iPrint, but that's not common with a 6.5 server in my experience.

Then again, if you aren't running a 6.5 server (could you tell us?) then Queues or NDPS standard printing would be a possibility.  So...let us know what server version you are running if possible.

You might get some hints from an existing workstation as well.  Like, do they have an iPrint programs menu in their start menu (if using Windows) or when you check out the printer in the printers folder, does it say it's using an NDPS port or something similar?

At any rate, see if you can give us a bit more information.  I've seen some libraries print via straight IP with no NDPS or iPrint and everything is setup manually via IP Ports on 2000/XP clients.
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My apologies on misspelling your name, Carole.
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Thank you for responding!  We have Novell 6.0 for Small Business on our server, and our HP-LJ4100 and Dell-Colour printers are displayed on all the other workstations on our network.  The workstation in question, is a new machine, purchased recently to allow ease of use when using large programs such as Adobe CS3.  This computer was installed just this week.  Novell Client was loaded immediately, and if logged in as "admin", access to Console One, etc., is available.  When in the administrator console, I can see the two printers in the list, but unfortunately, when I log in as the person who will be using this new computer, they are not visible (with the result that no printing is available!)  Using the "add new printer" doesn't work, since I cannot navigate to them.  

Hope this helps ..... and again, thank you for providing possible solutions.

Carole
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Oh ... forgot to add one other piece of information in answer to your question ....

The printers are set up using NDPS.  Not being fluent in "Novell", I am not sure about the iprint client you have mentioned, or how to configure it on the new workstation.  Also, iprint is not displayed in the start menu or in the printers folder.
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When you install the client, I'm assuming you are also adding the support for NDPS printing, or have an auto-installer that pops it in for you.

If that's the case (on my assumption) then you can try this screenshot'ted guide here - it'll save me some typing:
http://www.med.lu.se/content/download/25209/178419/file/How%20to%20add%20a%20NDPS%20printer.pdf

If you guys are still on true NDPS without iPrint then you should be able to follow that that PDF has to offer and install your printers.  Post back and let us know what you run into.

Thanks!
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I'll also add an easy way that was used in the days of Netware 5.x and that was using the utility in the Public\Win32 folder on the file server.

I'll include a link in this post for the files that include a legitimate, legal workaround.
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/375502/NDPS.zip

The instructions I have included are as follows:
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Use NWPMW32.EXE to add NDPS Printers in Netware 6.x. This is not officially supported on NetWare 6.x, but may serve as a workaround.

There are 2 files you need for this to run; they can be found in NW5SP5 and above.
SYS:\Public\Win32\NWPMW32.exe and SYS:\Public\Win32\NLS\English\PMRWIN32.DLL

After placing these 2 files in the 2 locations specified above on a NW6SP2 server the utility will run.

So in short, when you unzipped this archive it contained 3 files.  1 was this text document and the other 2 are the files you need to copy to the server you wish to run this utility from.

Copy each one to the paths listed in the second paragraph and then run NWPMW32.EXE and it should give you a listing of printers to add to your machine via a NDPS-aware browse window.  You might have to traverse a few contexts to locate the printers you need to install but that's it.  Install the printers once you find them and they should operate just fine.

Let us know how it works out for you.




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Hello Ghost96 ...

I am embarrassed, but obliged, to let you know that the two printers are attached directly to the network, with their own IP addresses.  As such, they are displayed in the Novell Console One as objects ... not inside a container, but objects in their own right.  I am thinking that this is why I cannot trace them through the add printer wizard.  Instead of the list "Microsoft Windows Network", "NDPS Printers", and "Netware Network", what is displayed is "Microsoft Windows Network", "WorkGroup", and "Netware Networks".  After that, if I click on Netware Networks, I see Novell Directory Services.  From there I see our actual working directory, "LIBRARY2", and lastly, when that is clicked, I see Library Backup-Que.  There are no other files displayed that I can navigate toward, and library backup-que isn't a printer (am not actually sure why that is displayed at all).  So .... after wasting all your time sending you on the hunt for work-arounds .... do you have any suggestions regarding how to connect the printers directly .....  

Am terribly sorry that I haven't provided you with appropriate information ... but many thanks for sticking with me through this problem ....

Carole
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It's no problem!

Here's another reference PDF for setting up a straight IP port to a printer in Windows XP:
http://www.musc.edu/infoservices/lynx/ip_printing.pdf

If you know what the IP's are of the printers you need to install, just add them via the Add Printer Wizard and make sure you have the necessary drivers for each one of them to be installed.

Some of them are already known by Windows XP and other printer drivers have to be manually downloaded and installed by browsing, as described in the PDF.

The printer IP addresses can be viewed on the panels of the printers by doing a printout of their configuration.  They can also be grabbed by varying port scanning utilities and by looking at another machine where the printer is installed.

Normally on existing machines, you can look at the port properties of the printer by right-clicking the printer in the Printers folder, then selecting properties.  Hit the "ports" tab and then look at the port details, which you will likely have to widen in order to view the full name of the port.  Most people name their ports based on their IP's.  You can mimic that setup shown on an existing machine on your new one and then print once the install finishes.

As long as you have the PDF for reference, the IP address of the printer itself and the necessary drivers, you can make it happen.

Let us know if part of this gets you caught in a roadblock or something.
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Ghost96 is terrific!!!  
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