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Why Roxio no copy DVD

I am trying to copy a DVD -R 4.74 GB DVD to another DVD of the exact same type.  When I do I get a message satting that the selected source is too large to fit on a standard DVD recordable disk.  Anyone know what's going on and or how to do what I want?

I am using XP with the latest patches as of April 2009
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WoodrowA
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WoodrowA
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blaazeCommented:
as i know xp wont give offer to burn dvd if u have any updates on it to burn the dvd then it should work

u need to copy the dvd first on the hdd and then try to burn it
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WoodrowAAuthor Commented:
I'm sorry, but your explanation was a little hard to understand, particularly the first part.  Perhaps you could rephrase it.
 
 
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Gary CaseRetiredCommented:
It sounds like you may be using a DVD+R blank.   +R media has a very slightly lower capacity than -R media; so a completely full -R disc cannot be copied to a +R disc.
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WoodrowAAuthor Commented:
Thank you Gary for responding.
No, as I mentioned in my original post, both the source and the target disks are of the exact same type, they are both DVD-R's.
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Gary CaseRetiredCommented:
In that case, the original DVD-R may have been over-burned.

Right-click on the DVD in Windows Explorer and select Properties.   What does it show for "Used Space"??

A DVD-R blank holds 4,706,074,624 bytes.   If your source DVD is showing more than this, that's the problem.   [FYI a DVD+R holds 4,700,372,992 bytes.]
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MereteCommented:
You could try backing it up again and reburn using DVD shrink, I encountered issues like this when burning a slideshow at 4.74 gig
 if i copy burn it again it sometimes fails maybe the actual copy burn changes the lead in lead out structure or writes in something extra, however running it through shrink again seems to fix it and shrink will burn to disc after it back it up just delete the back up from the C temp folder
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/DVD_Shrink
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Gary CaseRetiredCommented:
Re-rendering the video (i.e. with DVD Shrink of one of the other re-compression utilities) will do the trick IF the DVD is a video.   If it's data, that won't help.   Did you look at the "used space" to see if it's an overburned disc?
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WoodrowAAuthor Commented:
Well I'm not quite sure where to go from here.  The origianl DVD I wanted to copy is not in my posession and I do not do this often enough to make extensive notes about it.  I apprecaite the advice given and will try to give point appropriately.
I am beginning to think, however, that there must be a better solution out there.  I am using an older version of Roxio, but still, I am a computer professional and it just seems a little quirky to me.  I think it cost me about 100 dollars.  I don't know what's better right now.  I am using XP.  As I rememer it, its built-in CD copying is limited and I don't know if it even addresses DVD stuff.  Don't know if Vist or the new Windows OS will have adequate built-in stuff.
I will close this out in a couple of days.  In the meantime, if someone thinks there is a better solution I would be glad to hear about it.
Thank you for your help.
 
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WoodrowAAuthor Commented:
>Did you look at the "used space" to see if it's an overburned disc?
Yes, I did.  It's not an overburn issue.
 


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Gary CaseRetiredCommented:
I assume you looked at the exact space while the DVD was in your possession, since you're sure it's not an overburn issue.   The other possibility is the DVD uses a protection scheme that modifies the directory information so it appears to be larger than can fit on a DVD.   Many games use these and similar schemes.

If none of those fit the bill, then I'd simply copy the entire DVD to your hard drive and write the content to multiple drives with Roxio's drive-spanning feature.   This will automatically add Roxio Retrieve to the 1st DVD so you can restore the full content whenever necessary.   Won't let you just copy the DVD ... but at least you can backup the files on it.

If it's a protected DVD, you'll need a utility that's designed to specifically copy protected content.
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WoodrowAAuthor Commented:
Thanks for responding.  I will consider all you've said.
What about better options than Roxio?
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Gary CaseRetiredCommented:
It would be useful to know exactly what you're trying to copy => is it a data DVD? ... a game (if so, which game)?   ... a movie? (if so, a home-made one or a commercial disk?)   ... etc.

I assume that it is NOT a commercial disc, since you indicated it's on DVD-R media.   But if it's a copy of a protected disc it may still have the protected attributes.

But since it's not an overburned disc; and your destination media is -R, there shouldn't be any problem simply copying an unprotected DVD.
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WoodrowAAuthor Commented:
It is a program I recorded off commercial TV.  To my knowlede it is not protected, but how would I know?
 
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Gary CaseRetiredCommented:
How did you record it?   ... and are you sure the DVD was finalized?  [Does the DVD play okay on any DVD player device -- e.g. your computer; a DVD player; etc.]
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WoodrowAAuthor Commented:
I recorded it on a standard commercial TV DVD recorder (Samsung).  Yes it was finalized.  Yes, it played well on other recorders, but I think it's time to bring this discussion to a close.  
Are you a Roxio user (supporter) or do you also use or recommend other software?
 
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Gary CaseRetiredCommented:
I have both Roxio and Nero installed and use them both.   For backup up large folders that require more than one DVD, I really like Roxio's automatic spanning and "Roxio Retrieve" utility (it's automatically put on the recorded DVD set).

Since it's a video, and presumably unprotected, you may want to use DVD Shrink (as noted earlier) to create an ISO file from the DVD -- this should then be burnable to another disc with no problem.
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WoodrowAAuthor Commented:
Thank you for your help
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