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Workgroup Networking Between Windows Vista//7 and XP/2000

Hey there,

I been running into an issue that's been driving me insane lately. When networking XP machines in a workgroup to access a share you usually just set your permissions, and you can navigate through SMB or UNC, locate the share and use the appropriate Username:Password for the account on the target machine.

One thing I've noticed though, when trying to access a XP share from a Vista or Win 7 machine
no matter what I cannot access it. I suspect that this has to do with the new "Domain" addition below the username\password. Even when atempting to use Computername\Username:Password it still blocks me. Then the screen that pops up  after the refusal has my local machine name as the domain. Looking in the event viewer shows the incorrect login attempt.

Now common practice to allow a passwordless workgroup enviroment is to have an account on each machine with the same password, but that fails as well.

And what's really confusing is that accessing a share on Win7/Vista from XP is flawless. No fuss, no muss. \\randompc\share {username:password}

The shares are set to full access for "Everyone" with appropriate NTFS permissions. Where am I going wrong, or what is so different that this fails? I don't seem to have this issue with Vista/Vista machines.
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John HurstBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Are you in a Domain? or is this a Workgroup.

I access my XP Pro desktop from my Vista 64-bit Laptop routinely. The machines have different userids and different passwords.  I can also map from XP to Vista with no issues.

I don't understand the "Domain addition below the user name". Such does not happen to me. What happens if, on the Vista machine, you use: NET USE X: \\windowsxpname\C$ in a command prompt and let it prompt for userid and password of the XP machine?

Do the user accounts of the XP and of the Vista machines have admin rights?
Are firewalls properly set to allow the machines?
Have you turned off simple file sharing in XP? and turned off the sharing wizard in Vista?
Do you have File and Printer sharing installed on both machines?

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Nathaniel_ScrivNETAuthor Commented:
"Are you in a Domain? or is this a Workgroup. "

The question title is "Workgroup Networking Between Windows Vista//7 and XP/2000"

If you are going to answer a question please read it the whole way through.

Do the user accounts of the XP and of the Vista machines have admin rights?  *Yes*
Are firewalls properly set to allow the machines? *Yes*
Have you turned off simple file sharing in XP? and turned off the sharing wizard in Vista? *Yes*
Do you have File and Printer sharing installed on both machines? *Is installed by default with the TCP/IP stack.*

" don't understand the "Domain addition below the user name". Such does not happen to me. What happens if, on the Vista machine, you use: NET USE X: \\windowsxpname\C$ in a command prompt and let it prompt for userid and password of the XP machine? "

If you try and connect to a workgroup machine that has an account with a password in XP, and that account does not exist on your machine you will get prompted to enter in a username:password.

In Vista and Win7, if the same applies the prompt now includes a "domain" option.

In any case, it makes no sense that I can connect from XP to Vista but not ViceVersa.

In this scenario, the XP machine is XP Home, with the file sharing permissions set in safe mode. (Since safe mode is the only way to access advanced file sharing in XP Home.)





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John HurstBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
I did read your question through entirely - twice. You introduced the word Domain which is why I asked.

When I try to connect to my workgroup XP Pro machine to an account that does not exist on my Vista machine, I do not get a Domain option as you describe.

You did not say in your first post that this was XP Home. XP Home had crippled file sharing by design.

Have you tried giving your XP machine the same userid and password as your Vista machine? It is not clear from your first post that you have, but if you have, my apologies.
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Nathaniel_ScrivNETAuthor Commented:
My apologies for not including the XP Home detail. I know that XP Home is crippled by default, but is it that crippled that another machine can't connect to a share even with two accounts and the same username/password?

Perhaps MS removed the line of code to allow the incoming authentication? I guess that would make sense.....

Ok, thanks for the brain stir! I don't deal with XP Home often at all so it threw me for a loop.
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Nathaniel_ScrivNETAuthor Commented:
I felt that he didn't really pay attention to the question at first, (part of that was my fault for leaving out info) but the end result helped.
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John HurstBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Thank you, and I was pleased to have tried to assist you. ... T
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