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Trying to copy and flip a floor plan to another side of the same drawing using Visio 2003.

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I am trying to copy the floor plan on the left side of a visio drawing, reverse it and paste it on the right side of the drawing.  It will not let me attach the file for others to see...
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by:Scott Helmers
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How was the floor plan created? Is it an image? Or was it created using using the Visio floor plan template and floor plan shapes?
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It was created by using floor plan shapes.
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Thanks for the clarification. Another question -- what do you mean when you say that "it will not let me attach the file for others to see"? What are you trying to attach? And to what?

Are you able to copy, paste and reverse the drawing but it's after that when you can't "attach"?

Sorry, but it's not clear to me what you're trying to accomplish after the copy/paste/reverse... or even whether that operation is where you're having trouble.

Scott
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by:karaflanagan
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I am was trying to attach the .vsd file so that others could see what I was working on.
1st-floor.jpg
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OK. So you can copy/paste/flip successfully as your jpg shows.

To what are you trying to attach the .vsd file that fails? An email message? SharePoint? Something else? I guess that's the part I still don't understand -- can you be more specific about what you're trying to do with the vsd and what fails?
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I am trying to attach the .vsd file to this conversation so that others may look at it and help me figure our my problem but Experts Exchange will not let me attach a .vsd file to this conversation.  I do not need help with this.  I just need help with the copying, flipping and pasting of the floor plan.
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I am upping the points on this question.
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Got it -- now I understand.

For unknown historical reasons, Experts Exchange doesn't allow upload of Visio files (*.vsd), consequently, you will need to change the file extension of the attachment to .txt before you can upload it. Once you do that, I'll download and change the file extension back so I can open the drawing.

Please let me know what part of the drawing you want to copy and flip. For example, is it everything to the left of the center line in your jpg or something else?
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Here is the file in .txt format.
I am trying to copy everything from the left of the center line.
1st-floor.txt
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Hi, Kara. Thanks for the file... but I don't think it's the right file. If you look above, it says the size is 13 bytes -- no Visio file can be that small!

Why don't you try again and I'll take a look tomorrow.

Scott
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It won't let me save directly as a .txt file.  I had to save it as a webpage and then a text file.
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by:Scott Helmers
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Actually, you don't want to save the vsd in a different way -- just rename it. That is, with the drawing closed, make a copy of the vsd file, then rename it to change the file extension. For example, if the file is called
   1st-floor.vsd
make a copy and rename the copy to
   1st-floor.txt

All you're doing is fooling the limited-capability file upload mechanism at EE by changing the file extension. You'll probably get a warning when you do the upload but you can ignore it and let the upload continue.
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ok, trying again.
1st-floor.txt
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I can't figure out any way to copy and flip the shapes so that they retain their shape behavior. It is possible to create an image of the floor plan and manipulate it to achieve a result but it may or may not be what you want.

For example, to create the drawing below I did this:
  • save the floor plan as a gif  image #1 with transparent background (you could also save it with the default white background)
  • save the floor plan as a gif image #2 that is flipped horizontally
  • insert both images onto page
  • crop to remove right side of image #1
  • crop to remove left side of image #2
  • abut image #1 and #2 to create plan of complete floor
This approach does work but has a couple of disadvantages as you can see:
  • all measurements in the original are backwards on right side of the new diagram (you could use image editing software to white them out or you could turn off display of measurements on the original Visio floor plan before making the images)
  • doors and windows may not open the correct way if the right side isn't a true mirror image of the left
  • You can't resize or move individual elements because there are no Visio shapes, just an image.
So -- bottom line is this: you have a picture of the entire floor plan. If you tweak it as described above to remove backwards writing and you merely need a background image of the floor, this approach might work. However, if you need an editable floor plan, I think you'll have to add all of the appropriate Visio shapes on the right to make the correct layout.

1st-floor-mirror-image.txt
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