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I tried capturing analog video from my Sony 8mm camcorder so I can burn to a DVD using Windows Movie Maker. The video captured ok but there is no sound. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks
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What device did you use to capture the analogue footage. Does it have Yellow for video and red and white for audio, which you plug into your sound card/video card?
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Hi fredshovel,
The cable that came with my camcorder has two din jacks, one is yellow and the other black. I connected the yellow one to the composite video at the back of my computer and the black one into one of the audio connectors.   I  turned on my camcorder and set it to "play" mode.   I then started Windows Movie Maker and went to "Capture Video".  There was only one device available to choose from in the list of "available devices" and that was Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture.

In the Audio Device box I have two choices: 1. Line in/Mic in  2. Realtek HD digital Input.  I selected Line in/Mic in.

In the Audio Input Source box I have three choices: 1. Line Volume   2. Microphone   3. Stereo Mix. I am not sure which one to select and have tried all three, but still am not able to capture any sound.

By the way, I forgot to mention my computer is a Hewlett Packard Media Edition which I purchased two years ago 320 GB hard drive, dual core. I also tried capturing video using Nero and was succesful in capturing both video and sound one time only. The second time I tried I got a "failed to initialize capture device" error message. This is sooooo frustrating.
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Ok -- good info. Now I have to ask: This is definately an old analogue camcorder, right? -- Because if it's a digital camcorder you'd be using Sony's iLink (Firewire) or USB2.
If the camera is indeed analogue (digital cameras also have analogue outputs) then the yellow din will be S-Video (no audio) -- but I didn't know they still used DIN plugs for audio (boy these things went out in the '60s). See if there are red and white audio sockets that you can access direct from the camcorder with an RCA stereo audio cable. If you can plug these into your Hauppauge video card that's a bonus. But if they don't have RCA just use your sound card inputs. You'll need a cable that is 2 x RCA to a stereo MINIJACK (which will be on your sound card). You plug it into the BLUE line level input (green is line out for going to things like powered speakers and PINK is the microphone input [don't use this]).

Just to clarify:" Line in" is the industry standard for line level audio like that coming out of a camera or similar device. Microphone is strictly for microphones that are plugged directly into this input -- that's because microphones have a very low output and this input has a huge BOOST to the signal to bring it up to line level. So if you ever plug a line level signal into the microphone input you will boost it into DISTORTION. The STEREO MIX is very good if you are recording audio that is delivered via the Internet in real time -- like you want to record the audio off YouTube or any audio. What this does is allow your soundcard to both play and record what is being played at the same time (Internet stuff only). It's called full duplex (playing and recording at the same time).
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Thank you Fredshovel for your help. I do have RCA connectors on my video card, but as Windows Movie Maker won't allow me to select those as my audio device I  plugged the RCA connector into the blue line input on the sound card as you said.

This somewhat worked as I could hear VERY faint sound from the captured video, but there was also a lot of "computer noise" over the top of the recorded sound.

Prior to this, I had opened the Sound and Audio Devices in the control panel and made sure the volumes were not muted. I have attached a file showing the volume settings.

I am wondering if maybe the problem is the software rather than hardware. Maybe I should be looking at using different capture software that will allow me to select the audio from the Hauppage video card. Any thoughts on this?
sounds.doc
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Let's try a few things:  Notice that the drop down box ( in your Word file) shows Voice recording.
You need to click the AUDIO tab up the top. Then set both playback and recording devices as your Realtek HD Audio card. Or you could even select the Hauppauge card if it has RCA inputs as your audio recording device. If that doesn't work we can try something else.
Also you didn't confirm if this is actually an analogue camera or a digital camcorder.
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Fredshovel: I set both playback and recording devices to the Realtek HD Audio card (see attached file). Tried capturing video and this time got no sound at all.

My Hauppauge card has the red and white RCA audio inputs (next to the yellow video) but the Hauppauge was not listed in the Audio playback and recording drop down boxes so I could not select it. The only choices I have are the Realtek card or Line in/Mic in.

My camcorder is analogue - Sony Handycam Hi8 model CCD-TVR138.
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Ok, try this: Connect all the leads (red/white/yellow) from the Sony to the Hauppauge. Then select Line in/Mic in from the Audio tab under Sound Recording. I'm guessing that the Line in/Mic option has been placed in your drop down box by the Hauggauge driver. Then I would go to the windows mixer and mute microphone and make sure the line in fader is up enough.

We can try other things but if everything fails you can simply capture your analogue video and audio with one of these for about $30: (it says DVD maker from VHS but also applies to analogue camcorders)
http://www.kaiserbaas.com/video_to_dvd_maker.html
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Forgot to add, you get to the windows mixer by clicking on the VOLUME tab next to the Sound Recording box.
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Still no sound. I think I'm about ready to give up on Windows Movie Maker and try something else. The Kaiserbaas sounds good but looks like it's only available in Australia. I'm sure Canada has something similar though.
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Ironically I don't get sound if using WMM to capture video -- not in the real time capture, but it's there on the captured video. But I'm having a problem with my camera's firewire connection. You might want to try the free trial of Corel Video Studio. Also there's another method to capture and that is to plug your analogue camera into any digital camcorder (if you have one or can borrow one) via its AV (audio video) connections. You have to tell the digital camera's menu that you are using the AV in part. Then run the analogue camera and at the same time plug the digital camera's USB or Firewire (iLink) connection into your PC's USB2 or Firewire connection. This is how I captured all my old 8mm footage.
Also here's an advantage in purchasing a DVD maker. You can convert all your old VHS movies to DVD without the troublesome copyguard (which only activates if you are going through an industry recorder like a PVR or DVD recorder etc.) but when you go direct into a PC it ignores it. This is particularly for all my kids old VHS videos, which are a pain in the butt to use in VHS format.
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Thanks for the tip on the kids old VHS videos. As I don't own a digital camcorder I think I will just purchase a DVD maker and go from there. I have to put this project on hold for a couple of months but hopefully when I get back to it everything will go smoothly. Thanks again for your help.
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