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As you can see by the code the latter query has more decimals why cant I get the first query to yield the same result ?
SELECT A,B,A/B FROM

(

     SELECT colA, colB FROM thetable

) C

		

SELECT A,B,A/B FROM

(				

     SELECT		1.00000000000000000000 AS A, 1.40673489600528227000 AS B

) C
 

And the Result
 

1.00000000000000000000	1.40673489600528227000	0.710865

1.00000000000000000000	1.40673489600528227000	0.71086599389814597

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Question by:Pall Palsson
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by:QPR
ID: 24418247
my *guess* is that it has something to do with the datatypes in thetable.
I can't explain why from your results but:
select 1.00000000000000000000/convert(float,1.40673489600528227000) = 0.710865993898146
and
select 1.00000000000000000000/convert(real,1.40673489600528227000) = 0.710866
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by:RiteshShah
ID: 24418349
it is completely depends on the datatype you use in your table or in your calculation. have a look at following queries and its results printed after query.



SELECT A,B,A/B FROM

(                               

     SELECT             1.00000000000000000000 AS A, 1.40673489600528227000 AS B

) C --0.71086599389814597
 
 

SELECT A,B,A/B FROM

(                               

     SELECT             1.00000000000000000000 AS A, 1.40 AS B

) C --0.714285714285714285714285
 

SELECT A,B,A/B FROM

(                               

     SELECT             1 AS A, 1.40 AS B

) C --0.714285

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by:TimSledge
ID: 24418494
Use the format below to make sure division occurs properly and to control decimal output of the result:
SELECT convert(decimal(18,2), (convert(decimal(18,2), A)  /  convert(decimal(18,2), D) ) )

See http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Languages/SQL_Syntax/Q_24416319.html
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by:Pall Palsson
ID: 24420731
Hi, both fields (ColA and ColB) are decimal(38, 20)

If you look at the results  the upper line is the result from the Columns and the lower from just typing in the values in the select.

If I use + or - i.e. A+B or A-B I get the correct amount of decimals.  If I try to use Cast or Convert to decimal(38, 20) I Get the same result 0.710865 (0.71086500000000000)

If I multiply or divide the cutoff happens.

So neither of your proposals work.
1.00000000000000000000  1.40673489600528227000  0.710865

1.00000000000000000000  1.40673489600528227000  0.71086599389814597

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by:TimSledge
ID: 24420902
This should result in the same number of decimal places...

SELECT A,B,convert(decimal(38,20), A/B)  FROM
(
     SELECT colA, colB FROM thetable
) C
            
SELECT A,B,convert(decimal(38,20), A/B)  FROM
(                        
     SELECT            1.00000000000000000000 AS A, 1.40673489600528227000 AS B
) C
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by:Pall Palsson
ID: 24421057
Tim:

What you propose results in 0.71086500000000000 which is not the same as 0.71086599389814597

Thus it doesnt work
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by:RiteshShah
ID: 24421070
what about this one?


SELECT A,B,convert(decimal(38,20), A)/convert(decimal(38,20), B)  FROM
(
     SELECT colA, colB FROM thetable
) C
     
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by:TimSledge
ID: 24421550
The code below tells the equation to limit B to 2 decimal places and should create the same result.   You actually need to do this for A as well.  The only way you can get the same result is to use the same number of decimal places for B each time and for A each time. This is back to my original response.

SELECT A,convert(decimal(38,2), B),convert(decimal(38,20), A/B)  FROM
(
     SELECT colA, colB FROM thetable
) C
           
SELECT A,convert(decimal(38,2), B),convert(decimal(38,20), A/B)  FROM
(                        
     SELECT            1.00000000000000000000 AS A, 1.40673489600528227000 AS B
) C
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by:Pall Palsson
ID: 24423762
Hi,

I have tried to to use convert(decimal(38,20) AND cast like this X() represents what i tried to convert/cast

X(A)/B
X(A)/X(B)
A/X(B)
X(X(A)/X(B))
X(A/X(B))
X(X(A)/B)

with no success.

However QPR's solution of using float comes closest to yielding the correct result.
cast/convert   result

correct:       0.71086599389814597

float:         0.71086599389814600

decimal:       0.71086500000000000

noone:         0.710865

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I just realized you need to use  Convert(Decimal(32,1) to get the same results.  When you use anything higher than 1 in the 2nd position (controls how many places to the right of the decimal ) you are not multiplying by the same numbers.

You can never get the same answer when multiplying by 1.4 one time then 1.40673489600528227000 another time.  

Convert(Decimal(TotalDigits,DigitsToRightOfDecimal) ItemToConvert) is a way to make the two multipliers the same.  Convert(Decimal(32,1), 1.4) and Convert(Decimal(32,1), 1.40673) will both multiply by 1.4.

If you go one step higher (32,2), you will be multiplying by 1.40 and 1.41 (1.406 rounded to two places).

Try the earlier suggestion, but use 32,1 instead of 32,2.
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