Recommended initial size and autogrowth


I'm beginning SQL Server 2008 and need some tips on what values to set to initial size and autogrowth. My situtation is this: DB gets CRUD frequently everyday. I probably can estimate the initial growth of the data file but what should I put in autogrowth. And what is better, by MB of percentage. Also, the same questions on LDF files. I think log files will grow faster so what values should I set. And BTW, im using SQL Server Express as of the moment. Is it OK if I set the initial size to 4GB (max of express)? And if I ever choose wrong values (or udesirable values), will I be able to change them on production time?

Any thoughts regarding this will be very much appreciated. Thanks.
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Raja Jegan RSQL Server DBA & Architect, EE Solution GuideCommented:
That entirely depends upon your business needs and the normal calculations are:

1. Check how much mdf and ldf file usage per day.
2. Calculate the MDF file usage for a week and set that as Initial Size and make Autogrowth to happen once per day.. ie., A minimum of 10 - 20% autogrowth will help you out.
3. Calculate the LDF file usage per day and calculate your Full Backup durations. Calculate the LDF file space / usage per day and Make the Initial size as the space between your durations.

>> will I be able to change them on production time?

Yes... You can change the Autogrowth at any point of time.

>> Is it OK if I set the initial size to 4GB (max of express)?

Yes.. And if you dont use the 4GB max for huge no of days, then its non acceptable. But considering your small / average application, you can have it.

And for LDF you can set it to 1 GB or 2 GB Initial Size and 10-20% Autogrowth would help you out.

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manduz_griffusAuthor Commented:
Hi rrjegan17,

Thanks for replying.
In your no 2., you wrote:

"Calculate the MDF file usage for a week and set that as Initial Size and make Autogrowth to happen once per day.. ie., A minimum of 10 - 20% autogrowth will help you out". So I will do this calculation using sample data during development? Initial size can't be change (I think) during production, or am I wrong.

And also, what did you mean when you wrote

"And if you dont use the 4GB max for huge no of days, then its non acceptable".

Your other answers looks very acceptable, I'll try those out. And also, is the 4GB limit of SQL Express only for the Data file?
Watch out for Autogrowth. It's definitely worth having on (since if a file fills up you'll start getting failures), but when Autogrowth occurs, the transaction that requires the growth will have to wait until the growth is finished.

So it's much nicer to monitor the size of the files and grow it yourself before Autogrow has the chance to kick in.

Another thing worth noting is that you shouldn't shrink your files. And I mean pretty much ever. Only do it if you've had accidental extraordinary growth, and even then, you'll want to rebuild all your indexes afterwards. Shrinking files is notoriously bad for introducing fragmentation, and it will probably just cause Autogrowth to be required straight afterwards.

Also, log file growth is a special case. When a log file grows, the disk needs to be zeroed out, so it should be avoided whenver possible. But you should also make sure you understand the difference between Simple and Full recovery models. In Simple, the log file is truncated frequently. In Full, the log file is only truncated when a backup happens. Truncation means that the file will empty out, so that other data can be inserted without growing the file. So if you're in Full, do lots of transaction log backups. If you don't need the information in those backups (for point-in-time restore), you should probably be in the Simple recovery model. Many people end up running in Full by default, and have massive log files.

Hope this helps...

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You can grow your file yourself at any time. I think that's what he means by "Initial size".

Raja Jegan RSQL Server DBA & Architect, EE Solution GuideCommented:
>> And if you dont use the 4GB max for huge no of days, then its non acceptable

Let me explain this more clear.
If you have a DB with usage of 1MB per day and you set the Initial File Size as 4 GB, then it would take nearly an year for it to reach the file size of 4 GB.

Hence in this scenario, you can set your Initial File size as 100 MB (for the example I gave) and your Autogrowth to 10 - 20 % which would help you out.

If you specify 4 GB file space, that space would be allocated for SQL Server and it would cause high level of Fragmentation.

And one more concept:

When you specify the autogrowth property to say 10 MB, a virtual data / Log file would be added in your MDF / LDF file and hence if you have autogrowth set to less, then it would create lot of Virtual Log files and hence the fragmentation increases.

Hope this clarifies you out on what I meant over there.

And Make sure you have appropriate maintenance tasks to take Log File Backups and Shrinking the Log File alone.

Dont shrink the MDF file as it would not do anything better to your database except increasing the fragmentation.
No, don't shrink the log file. Shrinking a log file only causes it to grow more often. It's much better to have a larger, emptier log file that never has to grow.

The only type of fragmentation you could have caused by having a larger, emptier file is from the Operating System perspective - but if you're worried about that, then do a defrag before you create the 4GB MDF file.

Autogrowth should be left on, but you should hope that it's never used.

manduz_griffusAuthor Commented:
Thank you very much guys! Very useful information for me!
manduz_griffusAuthor Commented:
Thanks rrjegan17 and rob. Your suggestions really are helpful as a guideline for someone like me beginning SQL Server 2008. Your answers are greatly appreciated!
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