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Cant send mail to one domain

Posted on 2009-06-30
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dear all,

I'm having this problem when i'm trying to send an email to this domain and the NDR reply that I get is:

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. May I know the cause of this error?


      Subject:      TEST
      Sent:      01/07/2009 11:39 AM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

      yyy@tungshin.com.my on 01/07/2009 11:25 AM
            The e-mail system was unable to deliver the message, but did not report a specific reason.  Check the address and try again.  If it still fails, contact your system administrator.
            < mail.xxx.com.my #5.0.0 smtp; 550-Callback setup failed while verifying <xxx@xxx.com.my>    550-(result of an earlier callout reused). 550-The initial connection, or a HELO or MAIL FROM:<>    command was 550-rejected. Refusing MAIL FROM:<> does not help fight spam, disregards 550-RFC    requirements, and stops you from receiving standard bounce 550-messages. This host does not    accept mail from domains whose servers 550-refuse bounces. 550 Sender verify failed>
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yes, it looks like they are doing sender verification..

Previous discussion here:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Email_Groupware/Exchange_Server/Q_21128857.html

You may want to setup another send connector for them.
Thank Mestha for this link..
http://www.amset.info/exchange/smtp-connector.asp

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by:otyew
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the problem is that after emails are out of exchange, it will pass through mailsweeper before it is being sent. so i am not sure if this is applicable to exchange or not. btw is this our issues or the other parties issue?
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by:debuggerau
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well I suppose it could be deemed your problem since you may not have the correct PTR records in DNS.
Does your mail server have a corresponding DNS entry they can lookup?
http://blogs.technet.com/industry_insiders/pages/sender-verify-failed-with-incorrect-reverse-dns-record.aspx
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by:ryder0707
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Many SMTP servers in internet implement reverse dns lookup for ip address to prevent spam
This is to test the ip address is registered/belong to the particular domain since a hacker can spoof any ip with different domain name to send email
you can manually test this at http://www.mxtoolbox.com under diagnostic
if your ip failed this reverse lookup, you need to work with your ISP to create one for u
see example below from a random domain name, perhaps this could be the problem
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by:otyew
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tested it before and why only this url is having problems but not others as well? we are dealing with a lot of external users from normal home users till corporate clients but only this are having problems.
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by:otyew
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also this happens last week and when i run a check on our mailserver ip, it was in blacklist. it was fine after it was removed but now, it doesnt seems to be the problem.
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by:ryder0707
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hmmm not really sure, perhaps that particular smtp server is doing extra smtp verification as i can see "command is rejected"
what i'll do is to forward or relay emails for that particular domain to isp smtp server
if you are using exchange, just create a smtp connector for that particular domain
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in other words, all problematic smtp domain to be forwarded to isp smtp server for relaying
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Reverse DNS lookup, this is one of the Anti-spam techniques. This method is time-consuming and it is rarely used. The receiving server performs a reverse DNS lookup on the IP address of the incoming connection and checks if there is a valid domain name associated to it.

But some administrators follow this technique, for example AOL.
http://postmaster.info.aol.com/errors/421dnsnr.html
http://postmaster.info.aol.com/info/rdns.html

You may check the part "Why should I worry about reverse DNS (rDNS)?" on following article.
http://www.spamhaus.org/faq/answers.lasso?section=ISP%20Spam%20Issues

If you are on a static IP address, please call your ISP or DNS provider and ask them to establish a reverse DNS record for your IP address, reflecting your correct domain name if not advise remote email admin to white-list your outbound IP or create a pass through for your outbound IP.
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by:otyew
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this is on a fixed ip btw, what should we do about this? so this means that the other side is doing a reverse dns checking and since we do not have it, it rejects our mail?
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you got it in one..
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by:Subsun
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Yes...To resolve this you need to establish a reverse DNS record for your outbound IP address or contact the remote email admin to check the alternative (white listing or pass through IP)
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by:otyew
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i guess i can send it now. it is because of the blacklist.....but i think the reverse dns plays a part of it. the i am not sure why it get blacklisted daily. hope to get some comment before i close this? btw, it was CBL who blacklisted us, only this one.

ps-it is hard to give u guys the points everyone will get some. i will raise my points and then will choose the best answers.  thanks guys
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ok, the problem is this. before the mail goes out, it will be passing though a spam filter (mimesweeper). is the configuration should be done through exchange or this spam filters?
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by:Subsun
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You need to check all your exchange servers and make sure that it is not open relay. Also run ExBPA to verify the configurations.

Is mimesweeper scanning your outgoing emails?
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by:otyew
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yes, mailsweeper is scanning. since exchange mail will go through the mailsweeper, i guess it is the mailsweeper that needs to be configured.
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by:Subsun
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Yes you can fine tune the mail sweeper to block the outgoing/incoming SPAM but it is also important that your exchange servers should not be open relay because if your exchange is an open relay any Trojan/Virus or anyone could Send Spam Through your server which may cause trouble for you as no SAPM filtering system is capable of blocking 100% SPAM, Always prevention is better than cure.
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