Best way to indent text/images
I am not an expert on adobe photoshop so please excuse the dumb questions.
I am looking at this style which I have downloaded and have working (more or less) http://ebin.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/free-brushed-metal-photoshop-style/
I would like to make some icons which simply indent a simple picture or text in the centre similar to the word LOGO in the above example.
I have seen that some tutorials make two idential layers. Then cut the shape or text into both layers. They then move the bottom layer one or two pixels down and to the left to give it extra depth.
This is what I would like to do with the above style, but you can see (at least I could see the join between the two layers when I use the above style. I think this is because of the bevel but I am not sure.
The indent should be transparent and have a nice shadow inside to further give the impression of depth, but obviously I do not want this to apply to the outside edge of my image.
Could someone please guide me on how to do this. If you would like me to supply a .psd which you could play with just let me know.
Thank you in advance
I am looking at this style which I have downloaded and have working (more or less) http://ebin.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/free-brushed-metal-photoshop-style/
I would like to make some icons which simply indent a simple picture or text in the centre similar to the word LOGO in the above example.
I have seen that some tutorials make two idential layers. Then cut the shape or text into both layers. They then move the bottom layer one or two pixels down and to the left to give it extra depth.
This is what I would like to do with the above style, but you can see (at least I could see the join between the two layers when I use the above style. I think this is because of the bevel but I am not sure.
The indent should be transparent and have a nice shadow inside to further give the impression of depth, but obviously I do not want this to apply to the outside edge of my image.
Could someone please guide me on how to do this. If you would like me to supply a .psd which you could play with just let me know.
Thank you in advance
Top (small image number1 ) from..
http://ebin.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/free-brushed-metal-photoshop-style/
http://ebin.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/free-brushed-metal-photoshop-style/
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Hey thank you for the great help and detailed answers. The only thing is (and I did put this in the original question) instead of red I wanted it transparent, so that what is underneath could be seen.
Can you put up your psd?
I've been playing with the above layer style and haven't been able to figure out the transparency aspect of type punching through the plate without pulling in the bevel & emboss aspect.
It's easy enough to do with a plain background by having a text layer above, same fill as background with inner shadow layer style applied, but the transparency is foxing me.
I've been playing with the above layer style and haven't been able to figure out the transparency aspect of type punching through the plate without pulling in the bevel & emboss aspect.
It's easy enough to do with a plain background by having a text layer above, same fill as background with inner shadow layer style applied, but the transparency is foxing me.
Philip_Spark Transparency? where? I did not use and TRANS.
Darbid73, I thought you ask how to make.
"I would like to make some icons which simply indent a simple picture or text in the centre similar to the word LOGO in"
I was getting you started in the direction.
Please advise I will asist.
What VER of PS are you using:??
CS4 HERE
I never saved a PSD.
Selvol
Darbid73, I thought you ask how to make.
"I would like to make some icons which simply indent a simple picture or text in the centre similar to the word LOGO in"
I was getting you started in the direction.
Please advise I will asist.
What VER of PS are you using:??
CS4 HERE
I never saved a PSD.
Selvol
OH transparency...
Oh no apologies ... I did not use someones style to do this....
I was clarifying that the first image and the one I changed in the demo
was taken from his site.
Selvol
Oh no apologies ... I did not use someones style to do this....
I was clarifying that the first image and the one I changed in the demo
was taken from his site.
Selvol
Found the PSD I hope it is the one you are needing,
Cannnot upload
http://sketchlab.com/ttemp
Selvol
ASKER
I am at work right now so I cannot upload a psd that I tried. I am using CS4.
Up til now I have been making a "plate" like selvol has suggested
Then I have been writting text on that plate layer (not a new layer) (the text tool has a number of types and I forget what it is called but the text is typed as a selection) then I delete that selection.
This means that what ever is behind the "plate" layer is seen.
Up til now I have been making a "plate" like selvol has suggested
Then I have been writting text on that plate layer (not a new layer) (the text tool has a number of types and I forget what it is called but the text is typed as a selection) then I delete that selection.
This means that what ever is behind the "plate" layer is seen.
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>>Some sort of extension not allowed.
If you want to upload a PSD, simply rename it to .txt and let the asker know that you have done so. All he needs to do is rename it to PSD and the file is exchanged.
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If you want to upload a PSD, simply rename it to .txt and let the asker know that you have done so. All he needs to do is rename it to PSD and the file is exchanged.
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Selvol you have been fantastic I appreciate your help - so is there any chance of getting some transparency into the indent that you have suggested?
After figuring this out this is the only solution I can offer.
The problem is you can't have an inner shadow and retain transparency.
I tried various clipping methods, but none were successful so that wasn't the route to go down.
The only way I could get a similar effect was by the following
With the layer having metal effect I merged that into a flat layer
The TEXT element was then punched out of that layer
above that layer I made the TEXT element filled with white
the inner shadow layer style was applied to this layer
blending options at the blend if part was tweaked to eliminate the work
see screenshots, have added white square to illustrate that there is an inner shadow, a bit hard to see on the transparent checkerboard.
Picture-7.png
Picture-8.png
The problem is you can't have an inner shadow and retain transparency.
I tried various clipping methods, but none were successful so that wasn't the route to go down.
The only way I could get a similar effect was by the following
With the layer having metal effect I merged that into a flat layer
The TEXT element was then punched out of that layer
above that layer I made the TEXT element filled with white
the inner shadow layer style was applied to this layer
blending options at the blend if part was tweaked to eliminate the work
see screenshots, have added white square to illustrate that there is an inner shadow, a bit hard to see on the transparent checkerboard.
Picture-7.png
Picture-8.png
erratum: read
blending options at the blend if part was tweaked to eliminate the work
should read
blending options at the blend if part was tweaked to eliminate the white
blending options at the blend if part was tweaked to eliminate the work
should read
blending options at the blend if part was tweaked to eliminate the white
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I now have access to CS4 here is my attempt.
I have added a file with extension .txt you need to change it to psd.
myexample.txt
I have added a file with extension .txt you need to change it to psd.
myexample.txt
Try this with the text:
Make a layer with light gray text.
Layer styles:
Bevel and Emboss
Style: Emboss
Technique: Smooth
Direction: DOWN
Tweak sliders as needed; on your example file I did depth 71%, size 5 px, light 122 degrees
shadow opacity 60%
Inner Shadow (adjust as needed, these work with your example)
Mode: Multiply
Light: 122 degrees
Distance 7 px
Choke 0
Size 5 px
Make a layer with light gray text.
Layer styles:
Bevel and Emboss
Style: Emboss
Technique: Smooth
Direction: DOWN
Tweak sliders as needed; on your example file I did depth 71%, size 5 px, light 122 degrees
shadow opacity 60%
Inner Shadow (adjust as needed, these work with your example)
Mode: Multiply
Light: 122 degrees
Distance 7 px
Choke 0
Size 5 px
Oops.... Transparency...
Just make a text layer, and magic wand select your text, then cut it out of the "floating" rectangle layer.
Apply the bevel and emboss layer style to that layer with the text knocked out.
Just make a text layer, and magic wand select your text, then cut it out of the "floating" rectangle layer.
Apply the bevel and emboss layer style to that layer with the text knocked out.
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Statler01 you are on the money. Except I do not understand the Transparency bit. Could you assist me to understand that a little bit better please?
YOU are missing the point of my solution. Transparency is their.
Maybe I just expected you to see the method or am too familiar with PS.
To establish Transparency in my example. CHANGE THE color overlay on the FONT layer.
See how I go from RED to ORANGE? Well I culd have easily went to #c0bfbf .
Take some time to experiment with the solution I gave you.
I was just try to show you the easiest concept to get what you wanted.
Everything else hopefully will build from the fundamentals.
Regards
Maybe I just expected you to see the method or am too familiar with PS.
To establish Transparency in my example. CHANGE THE color overlay on the FONT layer.
See how I go from RED to ORANGE? Well I culd have easily went to #c0bfbf .
Take some time to experiment with the solution I gave you.
I was just try to show you the easiest concept to get what you wanted.
Everything else hopefully will build from the fundamentals.
Regards
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Yes, 4.0 days.... Not to be confused with CS4 for some. Those were the days.....
Hope fully you got you answer somewhere here. Seems like you got more lessons then I ever had some one show me.
Get a bit more time behind the mouse with PS Before asking a question "Best way to indent text/images" .
The answers here contain more then enough basics to create millions of variations of what you need.
Statler01, I appreciate you also going above and beyond to get this problem solved.
Regards to all
Selvol
Hope fully you got you answer somewhere here. Seems like you got more lessons then I ever had some one show me.
Get a bit more time behind the mouse with PS Before asking a question "Best way to indent text/images" .
The answers here contain more then enough basics to create millions of variations of what you need.
Statler01, I appreciate you also going above and beyond to get this problem solved.
Regards to all
Selvol
To be fair to darbid73, the only reason this was more difficult for me than it should have been is because I didn't take the time to read all of the posts before posting solutions.
Sometimes when you're new at a software it's hard to know what questions to even ask, but I think we got there...
As for PS 4.0, sometimes I think working with it for so long jurt me more than helped (in some ways). I find that old habits are hard to break sometimes. A lot of things that I am used to doing manually are now automated. That probably shows through in some of my solutions... My workflow is in some ways inefficient with the features in the newer versions of PS.
Sometimes when you're new at a software it's hard to know what questions to even ask, but I think we got there...
As for PS 4.0, sometimes I think working with it for so long jurt me more than helped (in some ways). I find that old habits are hard to break sometimes. A lot of things that I am used to doing manually are now automated. That probably shows through in some of my solutions... My workflow is in some ways inefficient with the features in the newer versions of PS.
I think part of the problem has been the clashing of various layer styles needed for the brushed metal effect, which combined with the punch out, proved problematic when it came to the bevel & emboss + the inner shadow
I guess I never attempted a solution using the brushed metal effect...
Hopefully something above will be useful for him.
Hopefully something above will be useful for him.
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Thanks guys - believe me I am learning. But Philip Spark is right I am just not getting the result because of the styles first added with the brushed metal effect.
It is kinda like asking for a glass of water and getting a pizza. I love pizza and would probably eat it, but I am still thirsty and the risk is that the guy that made the effort to give it to me might get upset that I do not appreciate it.
This is my first photoshop question I have ever asked in a forum. (i have asked hundreds and answered hundred about programming) but this is my first in photoshop and I am very much impressed with your effort, clear instructions and pictures.
The problem is that I am not managing to get the same result with your help on my photoshop screen.
Maybe we could go back one step.
It is kinda like asking for a glass of water and getting a pizza. I love pizza and would probably eat it, but I am still thirsty and the risk is that the guy that made the effort to give it to me might get upset that I do not appreciate it.
This is my first photoshop question I have ever asked in a forum. (i have asked hundreds and answered hundred about programming) but this is my first in photoshop and I am very much impressed with your effort, clear instructions and pictures.
The problem is that I am not managing to get the same result with your help on my photoshop screen.
Maybe we could go back one step.
- My original post introduced a concept of making at least two layers and offsetting the bottom layer by 1px (left and down) to show depth. none of you have used that. Is this concept not good, not used, or you do not or cannot use it?
- If you use No.1, how can I do it in my case. When I use it with this brushed metal effect I can see the join between the two layers. How do I get the depth to look good?
- How can I fix this.
- My basic solution would be to produce my base plate and create a .png.
- Start each time with the .png and then punch my holes in it and apply the shadows bla bla.
In Windows Version of PS CS4. "offsetting the bottom layer by 1px " .
I think you would be better off Making the layer. Draw your object, and then Right clicking on that layer in the "layers" menu.
Selecting "BLending Options" . Then you should have a host of options. Including "Drop Shadow". Which will give the "Offset" Effect I believe you seek.
Don't you have a "Styles" grid menu? Top Menu Menu Window/Styles. A Grid should pop out and have many preset styles including the metal effect.
PS comes with many styles. Some are not loaded into the app. Goto
Top menu
Edit
Preset Manager
Styles / Load
Load the styles.
VERY IMPORTANT.
Make sure the layer you are trying to edit is not the original "Base or Bottom" layer.
And your image is type "RGB" (Top Menu, Image, Adjustments, RGB).
Selvol
I think you would be better off Making the layer. Draw your object, and then Right clicking on that layer in the "layers" menu.
Selecting "BLending Options" . Then you should have a host of options. Including "Drop Shadow". Which will give the "Offset" Effect I believe you seek.
Don't you have a "Styles" grid menu? Top Menu Menu Window/Styles. A Grid should pop out and have many preset styles including the metal effect.
PS comes with many styles. Some are not loaded into the app. Goto
Top menu
Edit
Preset Manager
Styles / Load
Load the styles.
VERY IMPORTANT.
Make sure the layer you are trying to edit is not the original "Base or Bottom" layer.
And your image is type "RGB" (Top Menu, Image, Adjustments, RGB).
Selvol
And I apologize if I responded as if the question was not abtuse enough to answer.
Selvol
Selvol
OBTUSE>>>>>>
The problem is that the styles are clashing.
How can I fix this.
My basic solution would be to produce my base plate and create a .png.
Start each time with the .png and then punch my holes in it and apply the shadows bla bla.
Use my method for the transparent text
will the simple pic will just be a layer floating above your base plate with inner shadow layer style
rat.png
How can I fix this.
My basic solution would be to produce my base plate and create a .png.
Start each time with the .png and then punch my holes in it and apply the shadows bla bla.
Use my method for the transparent text
will the simple pic will just be a layer floating above your base plate with inner shadow layer style
rat.png
Also you might want to try .
Photoshop Elements...
Selvol
Photoshop Elements...
Selvol
Did you ever solve this?.
Selvol
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Hey Selvol,
After work today I will play with CS4 and put a psd example on the forum. Thank you so much for checking.
After work today I will play with CS4 and put a psd example on the forum. Thank you so much for checking.
ASKER
Ok I think Statler is on the right track. here is what I have come up with
- create a backplate
- add new layer and to this have my shape or text
- select the shape or text and then chile on the backplate delete
- this then deletes the selected area from the backplate
- then add some drop shadow or what ever to this layer
- then add another layer which is my styled grey brushed metal as a png
- again select the text or shape layer and this time with the brushed metal layer choosen, press delete
- Thus you can see through to the layer underneath.
All those effects can be done by double clicking on the layer.
SElvol
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unsstitled.png
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