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We currently run a Windows 2003 server environment
I have been given the task of install the following
1 x Windows 2008 to run SQL 2008
2x Windows servers to run  Remote Desktop Services (20 users on each)

So my question is this&
1.)      What hardware spec will I need for the servers
2.)      Does 2008  server integrate into a 2003 server without any issues
3.)      Reading material for the setup and configuration on RDS
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Hi,

Sorry to brake it to you, but we need some more info to give some really good advice.. Normally, i would suggest you stuff your SQL server full with as much memory as you can possibly spare due to the fact that SQL takes up all available memory and more memory means a faster server.

Yes, Server 2008 will easily fit in with your 2003 environment

The RDP depends heavilyon what you are planning ot use on that machine.. Are you going to dump all applications those 40 users need on both servers?? Are they only going to use Office and maybe Acrobat Reader?? Or some exotic application??
As a good average i would say reserver about 100MB per user connected to the machine, without the memeory used for overhead.. That would mean about 1GB for the OS and about 2GB for 20 users per server.

Some docs on it :)

http://www.msterminalservices.org/articles/Windows-Server-2008-Terminal-Services-Web-Access-Part1.html
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/book.aspx?ID=12716&locale=en-us
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Hi there...

Thanks for the advice - I guessed the experts would need more info - but I wasn't sure what type hence the short message.

The size of our SQL Database is 3500MB
I have attached a hardware summary report for the server I am planning to put it on - I have notice that it only has 4GB of ram....

Should we install the 64bit version of Windows 2008 for SQL and ther terminal servers ? If so will that require different hardware to the server listed in the attached report?

RDP:- They will be running our case management system - which integrates with Microsoft office - so worst case will be - case management, office and probably acorbat reader.

Couple more questions:-

1.) Have microsoft sorted the printing out now in RDP? - We tried to implement Terminal services with windows 2003 - but the printing issues were terrible and we scraped the project in the end.

2.) At the moment in word we use macro's that are stored in the startup.dot on the users local machine - can this be done some how with RDP ?

Thanks in advance

I will award points once above question has been anwsered.



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Sorry, maybe i'm overlooking soemthing here but i don't seem to be able to find anything that you've attached as for the hardware specs..
Still, i'd say for having a datbase of 3500 Mb a machine with SQL 2005 and 4GB of RAM is more than enough, you don;t need to have 64 bits version of Windows if you are only interested in this for performance.. Off course, a 64 BIT machine wil be faster tha 32 bit, i have no idea about prices (never buy those things, we have other people who do that :)) but if it's not moe money i'd say spend the extra buck or so for a 64 bit machine and the 64 bit OS... Also, for the terminal server it's kinda like the smae issue with the 32 and 64 bit.. Do make sure to plan into future.. If you know that more users will be using the terminal servers, plan ahead.. Installing extra memory is easy, changing it from 32 to 64 is not possible.. So that;s really up to you if you need that extra power or not.

"1.) Have microsoft sorted the printing out now in RDP? - We tried to implement Terminal services with windows 2003 - but the printing issues were terrible and we scraped the project in the end."
Micrososft answer would be yes, my answer would be no.. They apperantly have a new Universal driver that you can use with all printers.. Only thing is i'm used to working with Citrix, they do have a good solution for printing, their UPD works.. You can always go for third party tools like ThinPrint, that's even better than using Citrix..

2. Yes you can, just make sure to copy that file to the users profile at TS, place will be exaclty the same (Application Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP).

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Thanks again...

This is the server spec:- As we have to upgrade our SQL we will probably go to SQL 2008

Does this spec look ok?

Also how can I tell if the hard where is 32bit or 64bit

CPU Type   2x QuadCore Intel Xeon E5405, 2000 MHz (6 x 333)  
 Motherboard Name   Intel Alcolu S5000PAL (1 Adaptive Slot, 1 PCI-E Riser Slot, 8 FB-DIMM, Video, Dual Gigabit LAN)  
Motherboard Chipset   Intel Blackford 5000P  
System Memory   4089 MB (DDR2-667 Fully Buffered ECC DDR2 SDRAM)  

Will definately assign you the points after this question and thanks for all your help

Ian
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Hey Ian,

The server looks pretty fine to me.. As said, you can easily buy some extra memory if needed.. I'm not able to see which bit version this is. You need to check with the person who is selling you the server, 32 or 64 bits is the processor build, so you only need to look at the processor if it is 32 or 64 bits..

Looking at the internet i'm unable to find what kind of processor this is.. I'm aiming at a 32 bits.. But still, you need to check with the vendor to be 100% sure.. It's abit of a shame if you buy 32 bits OS and the server ends up being a 64 bits..
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Thank you for your help and quick responce

Ian
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