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HI
I dont know how to describe the problem..

we got 5 set of tape, i use everyday monday-friday backup.
Now i guess, when you create a catalog backup exec put some code or some references in the tape to make it identitica for each day, Because if i put monday's tap at tuesday it would not work, it would only take tues days tape for tues days backup.

Now accidently i inserted the windows fridays' backup to a linux server !!! so normaly linux server erase everything and took backup of hits own data!!

so now when i use that tap drive to backp at firday, it would not backup becuse i guess those references has been erased!!
so can you please help me step by step how to create ONLY fridays backup tape again  ......

thanks for the advise, i have attached the picture

this tapes are runnign for long so its almost time to create a new daily catalog but for now i want only how to create fridays backup again...
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Hi,
From your photo it looks like the reason you can't use a tape ahead of schedule is due to the overwrite protection which seems to be set at one week. This protects the tape from being written to prior to its "scheduled" day. To get back on track here's what you should do:

1. Insert the Friday tape
2. Go to the devices page, right click your tape drive and run an inventory.
3. When the tape shows up, right click your tape drive and run a quick erase.
4. When the erase has finished, go to the media tab, select online media, right click the new tape and associate with Media Set "SBS Daily", also, right click the new tape and rename to "SBS - Friday 250806" (The name doesn't really matter, but you should probably use the same convention, I assume the date is when the tape was put in use?)

You can always review your media set properties by right-clicking "SBS Daily" and see the overwrite/append protection. If the system has been working I would advise not changing them though.

Let me know if you have questions.

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Hi thanks

Your comments :

From your photo it looks like the reason you can't use a tape ahead of schedule is due to the overwrite protection which seems to be set at one week.

Yes, those are protected each weak . so if insert mondays backup set at tues day, it would not backup. it will only take right backp set.
 
so that meant, the BAckp Exec insert some ting on the tape to recognized what tape is for which date, is not it ??

so what happended is : since i inserted friday tap in LInux server i guess its erased everything from the tape, so backup exece does not recognized that ,

so either i will have to create another tape for friday backup or have to do something to recognized that firday tape again for Friday backup,

so i guess right now, friday tape is same as brand new tap is not it ??

so you saying inventory, what does this inventory do ??

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Hi,
Inventory just gets backup exec to recognize a tape in the drive. Once you get it erased and relabeled it will have no overwrite protection and it will seem to backup exec that it is "new". Once you run it on Friday again backup exec will retain the overwrite protection info and you will be back on track. If you insert the tape and run an inventory does it show up as "Unknown media" or does it show as something else? I suspect that the ID information is damaged, that is why you have to erase and re-associate it with the media set. Once you do that you shouldn't have any problem getting on track.

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yap thats what i suspect " I suspect that the ID information is damaged,"

let me do inventory

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yes, its showing unrecgnized
have a look to the picture
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One thing you said:

". When the tape shows up, right click your tape drive and run a quick erase."



will it erase the data of the tape ??( dont want that)

or

will it erase somethign to do with Id ??
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I thought your backup from the Linux server erased it...

"so what happended is : since i inserted friday tap in LInux server i guess its erased everything from the tape, so backup exece does not recognized that"

You can run a catalog of the tape if you like to see if it will recognize any of the data, but if the ID/table is damaged/missing you may not be able to get any data off of it. Do you need any data off of it? It looks like your last backup was 6/19, are you running a daily full?

If you are, I would erase it to clean/format it, label it, associate it with the media set and run your Friday backup to get back on track.
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1. right now, I dont want to losee  any data , i want all data to be there.

 so you saying , if i catalog it i will get all my data back and then if associate it will media set it will run again at firday ???


2.  It looks like your last backup was 6/19, are you running a daily full? :::


  yes, this tape suppose to be run only at firday
  it took lsat backup at 6/19
 then i did the mistake at 26/6 so it didnot take backup , but i didnot realized that it was due to erase Id from takep
so inserted the tap again at  3/7, but it didnot take bakcup

so its due to take backup today, so i need to fixed it.


3. your comments :
""If you are, I would erase it to clean/format it, label it, associate it with the media set and run your Friday backup to get back on track.""

-> if i do this, so i rather use a brand new tap, is not it ??

but i would rather try keeping Old data and fixed the problem ...

so you saying, its catalog ???if yes, then How ??
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I am unsure why you need to retain the data on the backup if you are running a Full-Daily backup. You can attempt a catalog and it will try to read the entire tape and build an index for the information on the tape. This is done under the drives page by right clicking the tape drive and choosing catalog. I am unsure if it will be successful as backup exec does not recognize the media.

You could save the tape and use a new one as what I am telling you to do is essentially the same process for adding a new tape to the media set. However, I don't know if you'll ever be able to get the data off that tape using Backup Exec.

Unfortunately, I think you are a bit stuck. I do agree, it would be good to get a tape associated so you can get your Friday backup back on schedule.

Let me know how I can help further.

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T
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Yes, you are right,i guess due to ID damaged its not doing catalog..
have a look at this picture

so i guess, i will have to quick erase then have to add this one with daily media set right ??

if Yes, then can you tell me, how backup exec will recgozed this at for Friday ???

or do i have to tell backup exed that its for friday ??

thanks for your patience
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You're welcome!

Backup exec will know it's the Friday tape if its overwritable and available when the job starts. There is no special setting in Backup exec that says 'use this tape on this particular day'. It is all controlled from the media set properties. (1 week - overwrite protection)

So yes, do a quick erase, then label it Friday and associate it with the SBS - Daily media set. Have it ready for tonight and you will be good to go.
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Ok
so i am using a brand new
i did inventroy -> quick erase ->Rename the Media set as Before( to make look like before)

now i need to move media set to Daily

but in Daily there is already one for friday, shall i move that existing Firiday one to Retried media ??
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Ok done
i have sent the Old friday one to Retryed media

and add the New one to Daily Media set

so done ???

is there any way to see if this is wrritable today or not ??
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Ok have a look to this last picture

see if every thing file

only thing is buggin me, its saying
override protection untill  16/07/2009

is that ok ??
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Everything looks good except the overwrite protection (you are right). The quick erase job actually counts as a job and adds protection. To get around this for today, I would create a new media set called "No OW Protection" and set the properties for overwrite to 0 hours. Move the tape to that media set so we can get tonights backup in place, you may have to edit your job properties to specify the media set. After tonight you can move the tape back to the proper media set and adjust the job properties and you'll be back on track.

It's a pain, but with BE there is no way around it...
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thanks , thats a good solution
but where i will set the properties to 0 for another media ??
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Ok i think i know what you meant

as you said

have to create a new media set , and i can see from properties you can chagne override to 0

but one problem

how will i tell that New media set No OW Protection to run at 8 pm at night ???
becuase i need to make it schedule to run at 8 pm today and will allow the friday backup a miss( it will not backup anyway becuae of protection)

so how will i make the new set run at 8 pm ??
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Ok if you see the picture

what setting shall i chose for make it No overrride??
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Those settings are correct:

0 Hours for overwrite protection
Infinite Allow for append

Does your job status show the job ready on schedule for the Friday job?
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yes my job status say Redy for Friday

so that means, tomorrow i will get an email from bakcup exe will say , Job has been failed .

but if i create the new set , it will keep  a new backup is not it ??
check the picture
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You need to adjust the backup job to point to the new media set for a device selection. Then change it tomorrow, you'll get a successful backup if you do so.
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Did it work??
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yap thats works!!
i am sorry , i forgot to close this question as i was in holiday now at home for sick!!!
Will close now
Thanks for your great  help
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You're welcome! Glad to hear I still got a little Backup Exec knowledge!

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