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Is it secure to use PJIRC chat?

Posted on 2009-07-13
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Hi,

Is it secure to use the IRC applet on a website?

The files are:
irc.cab/.jar
pixx.cab/.jar
irc-unsigned.jar
secured-irc.cab
secured-unsigned.cab

Or will a hacker could use the accss or commands through the chat to compromise the security of a IIS server?

If You know of some security issues, please summarize them and list a solution, if You know them :)

Maybe its secure if whole website is through SSL?
Or maybe I should use specific securedirc files?
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Question by:loopstudio
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by:Phateon
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Any HTTP is NOT secure. It is always suggested that you use HTTPS. pjIRC per se is a project which has been developed with clear non-malicious intentions. However, if you were to unpack & recompile them .java archives, you can create a backdoor. It is always good to use a site which is trusted rather than using a site which is not trusted.
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by:loopstudio
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A)
So I hear You say.. If the whole site is in HTTPS and the PJIRC files are downloaded "as is" from original website, then everything should be as safe as possible?

B)
and/or do I need to do something specific to use the
secured-irc.cab
secured-unsigned.cab
files? Or will PCIRC work fine and secure in normal setup?

C) So all the commands thats possible to fire/write in the chatwindow, there should be no security-compromising commands?
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by:loopstudio
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an D)
Isnt there something about that people can log on to my chatgroup from whatever chat-client, maybe not using PCIRC, and will it through that way be unsecure?
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by:Phateon
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What I meant was, if you use plain HTTP, people can sniff, edit, replay,etc. your HTTP session.
With an HTTPS session, you are better off! They can only replay.
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Dave Howe earned 125 total points
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the traffic is not secure - ie your traffic to the IRC server is no more secure than it would be if you were using a local client (such as chatzilla or mirc)

however, the applet does not induce any vulnerabilities in your webserver - you are merely serving it, like any other web page or content, and it runs locally on the remote machine.
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by:loopstudio
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ok, so its just the "text" that poeple write forth and back in the chat traffic that can be sniffed?
And nothing can go through to my webserver, even I have their cab & jar files on my server?

If the above is true, I will close and reward points :)
Thanx
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