Confused in Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition CAL Licenses??

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I am totally confused with CAL Licenseing of Microsoft and need to figure it out. We have a Domain Controller of windows server 2003 standard edition and 26 windows xp professional systems that are authenticated with this domain controller. i have the following queries.

1- Does a windows server 2003 Standard edition comes up with 5 CAL licneses included?

2- if the system is only a domain controller for 26 workstation, do i need to have 26 CALs just to be authenticate username/password from domain?

3- In simple words does  the CAL is the total no. of computers except domain controller in an organization?

4- does the remote desktop connection to the server for management purposes only require a CAL License?

5- if i host an internal website on that server, do i need CAL Licenses for the employees to access the server using web?

The specified windows server 2003 standard edition is just a domain controller and internal DNS Server. no print, filesharing, or terminal services are running on it.
Kindly help!!!!!
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NO ONE HERE IS QUALIFIED TO "LEGALLY" ANSWER LICENSING QUESTIONS.  TO VERIFY YOU ARE IN COMPLIANCE, YOU SHOULD CONTACT MICROSOFT LICENSING AND PRE-SALES SUPPORT IN YOUR AREA.

That said, MY UNDERSTANDING is this:
1.  Yes.
2. Depends - are you licensing by Device or by User?  You could have 26 computers and if you only have 5 users (each user with 5 computers) then if you license by User, you only need 5 Client Access Licenses.  However, if you have 26 computers but 78 users (say each one works an 8 hour shift each day, then it makes sense to license by DEVICE and you'd still only need 26 CALs.  
3. Depends.  See #2.  A CAL is a Client Access License.  It depends on HOW you want to license.
4. No, Remote desktop connections to servers for management purposes do not require CALs of any kind provided you only need 2-3 simultaneous connections at any given time.
5. I'm least certain of this - but I would say NO, Web services do not require CALs provided you are not using certain services (such as Outlook Web Access) which may have their own licensing requirements.

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leew! thanks for the help
please clarify the point # 2.
how could i identify that i am licensing by device or by user? i installed a windows server 2003 standard edition, configured a domain controller and dns on it. created 26 user accounts, added 26 workstations in to the domain. each user has one workstation (26 computers and 26 users). they login to their system by provinding their username/password of domain. does it require 26 CALs? i am not conserned at this time about the per device or per user CAL requirement. to make it very simple it may be said as each user from each machine in a domain that is authenticated by the domain controller require a seprate CAL?
Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process Advisor
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First first 5 CALs are EITHER Device or User - YOU decide.  There is no setting/switch to flip to indicate which you have chosen.  This is a DOCUMENTATION setting, not a technical one.  Once you have decided, you CANNOT switch back and you CANNOT get SOME Device and SOME Users CALs.  (Well, I think you CAN switch back, BUT you'd have to replace ALL the CALs - so if you started and bought 21 USER but then decided you wanted to be licensed by DEVICE, you would need to buy 21 DEVICE).
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well it seem to me that each user that is authenticated by domain require a CAL or any machine that is a part of a domain require a CAL. is it right?
Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process Advisor
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EITHER the MACHINE *OR* the USER - NOT BOTH.  It depends HOW you chose to license.

To repeat:
2. Depends - are you licensing by Device or by User?  You could have 26 computers and if you only have 5 users (each user with 5 computers) then if you license by User, you only need 5 Client Access Licenses.  However, if you have 26 computers but 78 users (say each one works an 8 hour shift each day, then it makes sense to license by DEVICE and you'd still only need 26 CALs.  

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i understand either machine or user.
the point is do i require CAL to authenticate a user from domain controller when i log in to my computer? suppose 1 domain controller and 100 pcs or users? should i require 100 CALs(either user or devide) just to make a workstation or user a member of domain controller?
Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process Advisor
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Either the user needs to have a CAL or the device the user is using needs to have a CAL.  

If you have 1 domain controller and 100 PCs and 100 Users then, in theory, it doesn't matter what you pick, device or user, either licensing scenario would require you to have 100 CALs.

If you have 1 domain controller and 100 PCs and 90 users, then it's MORE COST EFFICIENT to license by USER - and get 90 User CALs.

If you have 1 domain controller and 90 PCs and 100 users, then it's MORE COST EFFICIENT to license by DEVICE - and get 90 device CALs.*

*Devices aren't JUST PCs.  Smart Phones and other device CAN sometimes be considered devices too as far as Windows Licensing goes.  This is, among other reasons, why if you want an ACCURATE, "LEGAL" answer, you need to talk the company who is licensing to you - in this case, Microsoft - not volunteers posting here.

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Kindly Close the question because no one has been able to provide exact solution to my issue. what leew wants to tell me, i already know. my question remained un-answered.  i asked "does domain verification require CALs means if a user logon to his system using domain user accout and password, does he require the CAL as user verification occurs at domain" but leew focused on user CAL / machine CAL. he admitted that no one here qualifies to legally answer my question.
In that way question should be closed with no point assigned to anyone.
Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process Advisor
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I answered the question to the best of my ability and with the goal of ensuring the asker stayed legal.  If the asker had no intention of awarding me the points, the asker should not have persisted in requesting clarification of my points.  If that's the case, why did I waste my time here?

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