Thunderbird Email format

Shawn-in-VA
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I recently switched from Outlook to Thunderbird and I am very happy with this open-source program with a few exceptions.  I'd like some help to better format my email "Replies" and "Forwards".

1. How can I include these fields in my Thunderbird email replies
To:
From:
Date:
Subject:

Right now, this information is included when I Forward a message inline, but these fields are NOT included when I Reply to a message.  

2. When I Forward an email, it removes all of the previous threads from the email and only forwards the latest reply.   How can I modify Thunderbird emails to forward an email with ALL of the previous emails included and not just the latest email?

3. when i Forward a message, the header has a red gridline around the table.  How can i re-format this so that it doesnt show up as a red gridline?

Thank you for your help!

Shawn Adler
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1) E-Mail purists would tell you that T-Bird is behaving correctly.  After all, if you are doing a REPLY (ALL), then the original sender, recipients and subject are all in the header, and don't need to be duplicated in the body of the message.  I vaguely remember seeing an add-on for T-bird that would make it behave like you're looking for.  Have you searched their add-on page?

FWIW, the same purists also think that T-Brid does it right giving you the chance to "top quote".  That is, when you reply, the original message is at the top, and your reply is at the bottom.  I think that's better as well, especially for forwarded messages -- makes the train of thought easier to follow, and encourages people to snip out parts that aren't needed.

2)  I haven't observed this behavior, so I can't comment too much.  It might have to do with the whole forwarding in-line/as attachment option.

3)  The red gridline has to do with the addresses being a table in the body of the message.  Convert the message to plain text and it probably won't be there.  I *think* that the red is just a place holder; it doesn't really appear in the sent message.

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Bud,

Thanks for your reply.  I can see how people would prefer different email formats, but since myself and my associates have all used outlook for years, we are used to being able to scroll down and see the to/from/date/subject for each email in a thread of emails.  I like this because I can scroll down and follow the conversation to understand who said what and when.   Currently the date is not included, so i do not know how long ago the original comments were made.  

Also,when i get a new email, naturally, I need to read the newest comment and since most of the time, I do not need to read the older comments, I do not need to scroll down.   So although I follow the logic of having the oldest email in the thread at the top, this forces me to scroll down to read EVERY new email message.  Some only contain 1 or 2 lines and i dont have to scroll down with the newest date on top format.

I looked in the add-ons but couldnt find any.   how hard would it be to actually write an add-on for mozilla that modifies thunderbirds reply button to emulate the outlook email format:

To
From
Date
Subject
-------------
Latest Email Message

that seems like it would be pretty simple for someone who knew how to modify thunderbird.  Any suggestions?

Thanks for your help!

Shawn


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Bud,
Check these settings.
Tools->Account Settings->your account->Composition & Addressing-> and set appropriately for "Automatically quote the original message when replying" and the "Then start my reply..." where you would like it.
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Shawn-in-VA,

Did you need more assistance?  Any more questions?

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Hello,

I posted 3 questions and I am still wondering if anyone has the answer.  mtz1of4 did reply with instructions on how to include the whole thread in the reply, but how do i specifically include a header to look just like the outlook header.

Let's face it.  Lots of users use outlook and although I dont want to use it anymore and i love thunderbird, outlook has set a business standard for email formats for my associates and friends and this is the format that I would like thunderbird to mimic.   I am willing to pay a programmer to write a script to do this for me.  If I dont hear a reply here, I will probably post this as a project on scriptlance.com.   If anyone knows of another software project posting site that they would recommend for thunderbird mods, please let me know.  

Here are my original 3 questions:

1. How can I include these fields in my Thunderbird email replies
To:
From:
Date:
Subject:

Right now, this information is included when I Forward a message inline, but these fields are NOT included when I Reply to a message.  

2. When I Forward an email, it removes all of the previous threads from the email and only forwards the latest reply.   How can I modify Thunderbird emails to forward an email with ALL of the previous emails included and not just the latest email?

3. when i Forward a message, the header has a red gridline around the table.  How can i re-format this so that it doesnt show up as a red gridline?

Thanks for your help.

Shawn

Commented:
hmmm, I swear I responded to this on Sunday... my bad.

However, the number 3, red gridline.  That only shows up red on your end. Once you send it, it is received, the gridline is gone.

As far as number 1, I don't see a way to force that format, and couldn't find any add-ons for it yet, either.

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hmm,
According to the author.
Quote Colors allows you to select text and background colors of different quote levels which are applied when reading or printing mail/news messages. Additionally, you can choose between graphical and traditional plain text quoting display mode.


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/170

It might help force the headers you want.

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sorry, that says "reading or printing" doesn't it?
Thanks for attempting to help guys.  I ended up asking Kavita at www.focusindia.com to help me and her company wrote a custom add-on to do that for me.   It cost a little bit, but it was well worth it in case anyone else needs a thunderbird custom mod.

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Shawn, I can respect you wanting to close this and keep your points, however I did answer 2 out of your 3 questions,
to close this because "noone else answered your questions" is not entirely true.

I'm glad someone was able to create a custom add-on for you.

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