Why doesn't HDD remain seen by system?

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Hi Experts.  

I am building a new system, with new but long obsolete components, that were really top-of-the-line in their day.  I have physically installed all parts.  I have set up things in BIOS. BIOS shows no HD. It shows NONE under Primary Master(HD). If I go to HD settings, and scroll a bit, then back to auto, then back to main page of installed hardware, It correctly sees the HDD and DVD_RW.  Just a bit of scrolling around allows the BIOS to now see this HD.

When I save changes and I boot  with an XP install disk and, as the PC POSTS, it says that there is "NONE" for Primary Master, 80 GB ATA HD.  That is only seconds after the BIOS was showing the HD as clear as day.  Just a few seconds later.  Somehow the BIOS does not seem to want to take the changes.  Actually it makes the correct changes, but when I boot, the BIOS goes right back to where it was before I made changes.  This also happened with the DVD-RW drive, but  when I made the correction to AUTO, the change stuck.  The DVD spins the disk and tries to install windows but there seems to be no HD to load it to, so installation fails.

I have 3 disks.
1---WD hd installer disk.
2---ASUS A7x8X-X drivers disk
2---XP installation disk

Which should I use 1st, in this case on this completely raw system?  Could this need to be set at 100 instead of 133 UDMA settings?  Could that be the cause of this?  I am positive it is just the slightest, simplest thing that I am missing.

I am no Expert, but somehow I think the IDE controllers are messed up. Disks can spin and try to boot but without that HD nothing happens.  Now here is a big problem.  I have four of these new Motherboards with processors,  and memory, and CPU cooling fans, and video cards to match.   They are new, expensive for their age, and I cannot get anything to install on the first one.  This is not a good thing with 3 more to go.

I have had success with similar (but not exavct ASUS MB's), but now I am in a jam.
The QUESTION IS:  Can anyone, by my description, see what I am doing wrong ??
Thank you in advance,

Donnie616

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Have you double checked your jumper settings on your HDD?  Make sure you've got it set to MASTER.
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Check the drive manufacturer's website for additional jumper settings.  Many HDD's have mini jumpers located somewhere on the drive's controller board, often on the bottom.  If these are configured incorrectly, it could cause what you're seeing by delaying the startup of the drive, which doesn't allow the BIOS to see the drive before moving on.  

If it's a WD drive, and it's the only drive on that cable, do not set the drive for Master, Slave or Cable Select (MS SL CS).  Instead, remove the jumper from the drive altogether.  When you look at the drive from the bottom, you'll see marking related to the five sets of jumpers on the cable end of the drive.  Three of them will either be labeled MASTER, SLAVE and CS, or MS SL and CS.  If you don't wish to remove the jumper, and take a chance on losing it, you can place it across the top two pins of the SLAVE/CS set.  Top two as seen when holding the drive level, metal side up.  It will be the top two pins closest to the power connector.

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Thanks to both of you.  I have begun to suspect this hdd was the problem.  I took it out of the OEM pkg and it was supposed to be new, but it looks like it was popped open and painted.  Also the screw holes look like they have bee used.  Will check it out and be back.

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Like I said. A really simple fix. This was not a HD problem.  It was a Donnie problem.  Hdd jumper was set to slave and I had it in the Master plug of the cable.  Also I was  trying to put tyhe HD on the Master slot in the Bios. b That is why it would stay for a Second, then jump back to the Master spot where it really was supposed to be, just before the boot and was not seen.  I really can bre a dope some times.

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Stevenbyrd said the wole fix in one short sentence.

knoxzoo elaborated on it a bit,

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